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tree?

Hi 63.192.137.xxx, could you help me out here? The page you linked to says the Old Man is a tree stump, but you say it's a full tree....which one is it? --Dreamyshade

I said it is a "full sized" I didn't mean a "full tree" with leaves and fruits etc. When I was at Crater lake, I failed to see the "old man" myself. But according to the literature, the "tree stump" was from a tree over 100 feet tall (initially) with most of its length under water, not just a chuck of wood. That's why I said it is a full sized tree. I hope to find a picture with a boat or human next to the "old man" because I have not seen it myself and I don't know how big it actually is. Just like the tip of an iceburg, only the stump is visible to the tourists. Change it if you want.

According to http://www.outdoors.net/magazines/outdoors/camping/nationalparks/craterlake/nn-vl11b.asp#3 The old man is 4 feet above and 30 feet below water with a diameter of 27 inches.

See also http://www.outdoors.net/magazines/outdoors/camping/nationalparks/craterlake/nn-vol27.asp#4 for more info.

I found a picture with a man standing on the "old man" at http://www.outdoors.net/magazines/outdoors/camping/nationalparks/craterlake/nn-vol27.asp

-- 63.192.137.xxx

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Driftwood, Texas is a small town which actual "town" environs include the basic requirements: a post office, a church, a former store, and a grave yard. The area is so attractive and relatively unspoiled that several movies have been shot in proximity. In this one area is the temple of meat:The Saltlick and the other temple: Barsana Dham - the largest Hindu temple in America.

I removed that from the article. According to The Handbook of Texas Online, Driftwood is a teensy-tiny little town. Important enough to include here? I'm not sure, but my wikinstincts say no. --Dreamyshade 08:51, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Driftwood as waste

• I feel the driftwood should not be in the Category:Waste. It is almost always due to a natural process and I would argue that a natural process is not wasteful. Alan Liefting 04:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
• A waterfront docks manager would not agree. I read a newspaper article that said that in the London docks (UK) driftwood was a serious problem and much of it was discarded ships' dunnage.

• I once had a holiday in Pembrokeshire, and (to collect firewood) sometimes we went to a particular cove which tended to accumulate driftwood, and much of that driftwood was sawn wood (planks, beams, parts of packing cases, etc) rather than natural parts of trees. Anthony Appleyard 06:25, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Ok, I stand corrected. Here in New Zealand it is virtually always natural. A case of blinkered vision on my part. Alan Liefting 08:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Waste?

• Floating debris such as dumped dunnage, or any other man-made flotsam, is waste. I disagree with the classification of this naturally occurring phenomenon as waste. Conn, Kit 13:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
• Most waterfront people would classify floating wood debris as driftwood whether or not it had been cut or sawn by man before it got in the water. Anthony Appleyard 14:06, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Scientific name of driftwood

Hi, i have the wind chime sample here and it made with the dirftwood, but do not know it come from which kind of tree. As i need to do some lab test before export, so can you help me to classify what is the specify scientific name of it? thanks! AF

Chlorine in Driftwood

I'm concerned with the following statement in the opening section: "Burning driftwood can produce polychlorinated dibenzodioxins (PCDDs)... The formation of PCDDs is well documented when organic compounds are combusted in the presence of chlorine". The link to the citation is dead. I also cannot find any good research to state that this is completely true. The melting point of Salt is 801C, it's boiling point is 1413C. Do fires have enough energy to provide those temperatures?

If we don't get a good link to back up this statement, I think I will delete it. Sean Egan (talk) 16:36, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Since no source can be found, I've removed it. The health effects of wood smoke are discussed in Wood_fuel#Combustion_by-product_effects_on_human_health. Since that is not the topic of this article, I'm not sure it needs to be covered here. A link to Wood fuel may be appropriate. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 20:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Relevant papers are listed below in case anyone wishes to review them.

• Lavric, E. D., Konnov, A. A., and Ruyck, J. D. (2004). “Dioxin levels in wood combustion- A review,” Biomass & Bioenergy 26, 115-145.
• Leclerc, D., Duo, W. L., and Vessey, M. (2006). “Effects of combustion and operating condition on PCDD/PCDF emissions from power boilers burning salt-laden wood waste,” Chemosphere 63, 676-689.
• Luthe, C., Karidio, I., and Uloth, V. (1997). “Towards controlling dioxins emissions from power boilers fueled with salt-laden wood waste,” Chemosphere 35, 557-574.

--Walter Siegmund (talk) 20:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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Driftwood as Marine Debris?

The first line of this article states that driftwood is a form of Marine debris. However, the page for marine debris defines marine debris as specifically man-made waste. My impression is that only a small portion of driftwood is composed of man-made waste. So, is it appropriate to classify all driftwood as marine debris? My feeling is that it is not. Thanks in advance to anyone who can clear this up. Saamwisetheb0ld (talk) 02:19, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@Saamwisetheb0ld: I think you make an excellent point and have removed that sentence. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:46, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

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