Talk:Dunlop Tyres/Archives/2017

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move to a particular title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 00:51, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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Dunlop Tyres → ? – The name should be either be Dunlop or Dunlop Tire as Dunlop Tyre no longer exists. 143.65.196.20 (talk) 13:10, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

• Comment: http://www.dunlop.eu/dunlop_uk/ make tyres while http://www.dunloptires.com/en-US/tires-home make tires. I have not followed ownership trail. See: Dunlop and Dunlop (brands) Gregkaye ✍♪ 14:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

The Fincial Times lists no more manufacturing in the UK, and all manufacturing is done by Goodyear (Tires?) in Frace/Germany [1]

There seems to be two companies, given the links by Gregkaye, Dunlop, which is EU, and Dunlop Tires which is American. Neither of which is Dunlop Tyres hence a rename. There's a Disambiguation page at Dunlop so I would suggest Dunlop Tire and, we include the American company in there too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.65.196.20 (talk) 16:13, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

• Despite an absence of conclusive checks I Support proposal by 143.65.196.20 as most reasonable way of attempting clarification of article content. However I suggest the slight amendment to the plural Dunlop Tires as per website. Gregkaye ✍♪ 08:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Yea, it's a bit ambigious to me how one should name it. I did mean to use the plural Dunlop Tires but, absent a second article for the company in the states, it seems that it should be Dunlop Tires as that is how they are now known (not resupporting my move, just, attempting to make a reasoned argument) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.65.196.20 (talk) 09:48, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

change to Oppose as related to the current situation of the article and in response to comments by Necrothesp below. I also think that Dunlop tyres is a more relevant identifier than Dunlop Rubber Company.

Rolling on If an editor was interested I think there would be a benefit in spliting off an American article and submitting an RM here to something like Dunlop (UK tyre manufacturer) or Dunlop tyres. Gregkaye ✍♪ 09:47, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

• If the article is only about one of the companies the name of that company should be used, otherwise "(tyres)" or "(Goodyear)". "Tires" would be misleading, only referring to the US subsidiary.. 86.130.209.39 (talk) 21:41, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
• "Tyres" is still used in the Australian company's name. 86.130.209.39 (talk) 21:56, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose. The British company was never called Dunlop Tyres. It was called the Dunlop Pneumatic Tyre Company until 1913, the Dunlop Rubber Company from 1913 to 1967, and the Dunlop Company (or just Dunlop) thereafter. But what this article appears to be about is the brand, and as such it probably doesn't need renaming, as you can still get Dunlop Tyres (with the British spelling). The infobox, which refers only to the American company, needs removing. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:51, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
  • As the article mentions, Sumitomo acquired the brand; its UK subsidiary (which was previously SP Tyres UK Ltd) became Dunlop Tyres Ltd in 1997, this still exists but not as a manufacturer. 86.130.209.39 (talk) 19:53, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
• If this is about the brand, then rename to Dunlop (brand). If about the company, then Dunlop Rubber Company could be the correct choice. At this point the article text make say brand and the categories say company. Which is it? So I probably support some change, but what? Vegaswikian (talk) 16:46, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
  • It's more than one company (Dunlop Tires, Dunlop GmbH, Dunlop Tyres Australia) in the Goodyear group and other separate companies. A Dunlop (brands) article already exists. 86.130.209.39 (talk) 19:53, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
    • Merge? Vegaswikian (talk) 21:27, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
      • Maybe, but there's probably enough for a separate article about the joint venture (which consists of more than one joint venture company with the same owners - Goodyear Dunlop Tires Europe in the Netherlands and Goodyear Dunlop Tires North America in the United States - and various subsidiaries; I'm not sure about Australia). If this is kept then I suggest renaming it to Goodyear Dunlop Tires. 86.130.209.39 (talk) 22:19, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

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