Talk:Dzyatlava massacre
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editHi, regarding this article, I found a newspaper article about the former soldier Vassili Arula, from the 36th battalion, responding to the allegations by Efraim Zuroff. According to him, the ones who shot the detainees were germans and 'poles in black uniforms'. And in the august of 1942 in Novogrudok, their job was to guard the horse stables with prisoners, and there might have been jews. Why they were there or why they were prisoners, he cant say.
His story is confirmed by the history of the 36th police battalion, from the National Archive in Tallinn. According to this they reached Novogrudok on 5th or 6th of August, after which they got a few days off. Then they were ordered to fight against partisans, leaving the base with cars and then always coming back. There isnt anything mentioned about escorting or killing jews in the battalion history, written by their leader Harald Riipalu.
Then come the NKVD interrogations. Its known about one of the witnesses, Rudolf Mäeorg that NKVD got everything out of him at gunpoint - and it later turned out that he didnt even serve in the 36th police battalion.
the article in estonian is here: http://www.epl.ee/artikkel/211338
oh yeah and the interrogation in russian, which somebody cited as one of the sources, Mäeorg's "confession" is included in it: http://www.vpk-news.ru/article.asp?pr_sign=archive.2006.145.articles.history_01
Encyclopedia of the Holocaust By Israel Gutman
editdoes not mention either Dzyatlava or Dzyatlava massacre or Djatlovo. Nor does google books have anything on it, either does google scholar. Please provide a proper and reliable source for the article. Thanks!--Termer 09:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Schutzmannschaft Front Battalion 36 Arensburg
editThe article currently leaves the impression that this battalion single-handedly carried out the massacre whereas the opposite is true - the KGB, despite their efforts, did not find any evidence against them. Let me point out that the 36 Battalion was an SS-unit like the other ones there, wherefore the statement "The German SS soldiers and the Schutzmannschaft Front Battalion 36 Arensburg" sounds as stupid as "animals and cows" or "people and Jews". Dzied Bulbash's removal of historical sources is inappropriate and so is inserting Russian government propagandist Natalya Voyakina. I also do not understand why was the original title of the external source Eestlased võisid osaleda Valgevene massimõrvas [Estonians may have participated in a Belorussian mass murder] replaced with an OR title and why was the Novogrudoki tõed ja valed [Thruths and lies of Novogrudok] removed? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 08:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)