Talk:E. L. Konigsburg

Old peer review

OK, looks like nobody's been here in a while. In any case, if someone DOES stop by ... anyone know where the old peer review went? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mistsrider (talk • contribs) 09:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Almost four years later there is no sign of the old peer review. --P64 (talk) 19:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

So Sorry

I am so sorry. I completely damaged the biography section, and I dont know how, and I don't know how to fix it. If somebody could please fix it, that would be great. Thank You. ~~Sorry In USA~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.46.8 (talk) 04:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Resolved —reverted 20 minutes later. --P64 (talk) 23:59, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Newbery records

Three days ago I wrote editor Jean E. Karl into the article with references.

At the same time, I expanded the Newbery records at two points without references. My only source is our article Newbery Medal, so marked by my HIDDEN COMMENT (twice).

<!-- one source is [[Newbery Medal]] -->

I am not sure that the previous editor's observation remains notable (29 years between Newberys) — it's rather trivial beside the supposed fact that only five people have won two of the Medals — but I have retained it, without the previous undue emphasis. --P64 (talk) 00:09, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Possible vandalism

"Reverting possible vandalism" shows up on my watchlist. Edit history shows that User:65.4.128.78 made two edits at 23:31 and 23:34.

• insertion "BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" at the top, which was immediately reverted by a robot
• insertion "she is 81 Year old" at the top, which was substantially helpful (I corrected her birthdate from 1939 to 1930 with references).

I hope someone else is watching. --P64 (talk) 00:19, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Much work needed

P.S. So famous a writer should have a better biography and the three books named in the lead section, at least, should have substantial articles rather than stubs or starts (mainly Plot outline and annotated list of Characters). --P64 (talk) 00:19, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

I have completed some major revision of this biography and the four articles on those Newbery books and also The Second Mrs. Giaconda. And I have dared to upgrade all from Stub/Start to C. Attention to the critical literature is now the most important omission, in my opinion. --P64 (talk) 02:28, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Scholastic interview

E. L. Konigsburg, Interview Transcript. No date. Scholastic Teachers. scholastic.com.

(interjection 2012-01-05) date evidently between 1996 month?? publication of her The View From Saturday and 2000 March 30 death of her "forever editor" Jean E. Karl.

These two exchanges quoted from the interview directly and primarily concern Father's Arcane Daughter (or My Father's Daughter) and the relationship with editor Jean Karl. —evidently, by inference from Karl's obituary and Konigsburg's reference to "the same editor always".

(interjection 2012-02-04) Jean Karl is her recently deceased "stalwart" in the 35th anniversary afterword to Mixed-Up Files (2002), which includes a reproduction of Karl's 1966 letter to her concerning the manuscript.

Which of your books is your favorite?

It changes. I think Father's Arcane Daughter. That's one of my best books.It was difficult to write, because you get your ideas from situations you know about. And this was a situation I knew about, and I had to disguise everything. And I think I did it pretty successfully. That book was made into "Caroline?", a Hallmark Hall of Fame presentation. The opening was very different from the opening of my book, but I thought they did a very good job of capturing the book's spirit. It was about having a sibling who's handicapped.

How do you go about revising your writing?

My editor - I've had the same editor always [evidently Jean Karl]- sends me some suggestions. I have had two books go directly from manuscript to typescript, which is like getting an A+ on a paper. My editor makes suggestions, and I read them all and work with them. Neither she nor I approves of someone going in to tweak the story. We agree that you should read the comments over the whole story, and then decide what you are going to churn up. You don't change little bits at a time.

For other pointed selections see Talk pages for her three Newbery books and for Jean Karl

• Talk:Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth#Scholastic interview
• Talk:From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler#Scholastic interview.
• Talk:The View from Saturday#Scholastic interview
• Talk:Jean E. Karl#Editing Konigsburg

--P64 (talk) 02:24, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

--P64 (talk) 17:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

--P64 (talk) 16:17, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Alternate titles for The Second Mrs. Giaconda and Father's Arcane Daughter

The Second Mrs. Giaconda is noted in this article as having the alternate title The Second Mrs. Gioconda. Also, Father's Arcane Daughter was later published as My Father's Daughter. I don't have any real 'proof' or websites to cite, as WP would probably insist on (they also say no original research), but I do have this:

1. I happen to own both a copy of The Second Mrs. Gioconda and My Father's Daughter. They were both purchased in the US, and are American editions. (I happen to be Australian.)
2. My Father's Daughter

• My copy of My Father's Daughter says on the copyright page: 'Copyright © 1976 by E. L. Konigsburg' and, just below it: 'Copyright renewed © 2004 by E. L. Konigsburg'.
• Also on the copyright page are the words 'Originally published as Father's Arcane Daughter in 1976 by Simon and Schuster Books for Young Readers'.
• My edition was published in 2008 by the New York branch of Atheneum Books for Young Readers.

1. The Second Mrs. Gioconda

• First and foremost: My edition of The Second Mrs. Gioconda does not mention The Second Mrs. Giaconda as an alternate title anywhere in or on it. (My edition was published in 1998 by Aladdin Paperbacks.)
• As a side note, I just want to say that this is not the British (or Canadian or Australian or something similar) edition. Both British and Australian English, to name a few, spell the abbreviation of 'Missus' as 'Mrs' instead of the American 'Mrs.' (without as opposed to with the full stop). If The Second Mrs. Gioconda was the British edition of the book, it would likely be titled The Second Mrs Gioconda.

I know that this will probably not be included in this article because of lack of proper sources, but I just thought I'd let whoever edits this page know, so that maybe they can look up what I have said and confirm it. I'll be willing to discuss this if anybody is willing. Thanks, JustPotteringAround (talk) 05:28, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Authority control. Now I doubt that Giaconda/Gioconda or Mrs/Mrs. would be mentioned as an alternate title (although our Gioconda article does so). The Library of Congress Online Catalog (see {{Authority control}} now at the foot of this biography) actually lists 'Gioconda' for the 1975 (first) and 'Giaconda' for the 2005 (Simon&Schuster). These authorities are useful references on many points but I don't know what determines whether a new edition of an old work is catalogued.

The Second Mrs. G. I worked on The Second Mrs. Giaconda after working here, and never returned to say anything here regarding the title. Now I have provided a quick solution (currently Ref #7) that may also violate policy.

What does the 1998 edition (Gioconda) include before and after the novel? Any fore- and after- material by ELK that may or must be new? (compare E. L. Konigsburg#35th on Mixed-Up Files). The original after material is plates, an odd mix of single-side and back-to-back!

My Father's Daughter. (postponed) --P64 (talk) 15:43, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

WorldCat "Formats and Editions of Father's arcane daughter" is a reliable source for the basic fact (altho not that Aladdin 2008 was the first edition issued as My Father's Daughter).

By the way,

• another WorldCat library record says the TV adaptation Caroline? won one of the "Emmy awards, 1990: Best television movie or special."[1] ... and we list it so
• WorldCat lists ten genres for Konigsburg: "Children's stories Didactic fiction Adventure stories Children's stories, American Adventure fiction Occult fiction Suspense fiction Historical fiction Detective and mystery stories Sagas"[2]

--P64 (talk) 04:37, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Speculative fiction

E. L. Konigsburg at the Internet Speculative Fiction Database catalogues one of her works, the novel Up from Jericho Tel. Certainly that is speculative fiction (and a novel).

I don't know whether that is unique among her works. ISFDB doesn't completely execute its own design and its design may exclude works below some interest- or reading- level that is relevant here.

--P64 (talk) 03:01, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

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