Talk:E. R. Fightmaster
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editE. R. Fightmaster clearly states on their social media that their preferred pronouns are they/them, but (I assume) trolls keep changing the page to say she and inserting inconsiderate remarks about their gender identity… I will keep an eye on this page but I don’t know what else I can do about it as I am new to the Wikipedia community and this issue on this page seems to be ongoing AnkhWizzard (talk) 22:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome! If the disruption persists, I'll submit a request for page protection—probably limiting it to what's known as "semi-protection" to prevent edits by users who aren't logged in, since that's where the disruption is coming from. Thanks for noting the problem. Largoplazo (talk) 22:17, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if I'm putting this in the correct place or not, but I couldn't find a way to mention either topic, so please bear with me. Firstly, I can't cite the episodes, however, the character that E.R. Fightmaster played on Grey's Anatomy, Kai, was not the 1st non-binary character to be introduced to the show, and not even the 1st to appear in more than 1 episode. The first non-binary character was a teenager who ended up in the hospital with their mother twice, the 1st time after a snowmobile accident and the 2nd when a stem-cell therapy that could turn the mother's quadriplegia into paraplegia was found. Second, the reason I searched E.R. Fightmaster today was to learn their birth sex out of pure curiosity with all respect to their gender after rewatching old Grey's Anatomy episodes. I respect that E.R Fightmaster is nonbinary and that it would be entirely inappropriate to label them otherwise, I just thought that I would see something that would clue me into their birth sex under the "early life and career" section (ei. "born 'insert name'", as most actor's wiki pages do). It's sad that the only way to satisfy my non-judgemental curiosity in this article was this section right here where it is mentioned that protection would be added to the page due to people disrespectfully editing. It actually does seem a tiny bit judgemental to leave out their birth name from the "Early Life" section because any actor that had changed only their name and not their pronouns would have that in their wiki article. Mentioned with love! Clairebear03 (talk) 08:57, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- An actor who chooses a stage name isn't seeking to assert that the identity assigned to them early in life was mistaken, an unfortunate mask hiding what has been their real identity all along. Largoplazo (talk) 08:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if I'm putting this in the correct place or not, but I couldn't find a way to mention either topic, so please bear with me. Firstly, I can't cite the episodes, however, the character that E.R. Fightmaster played on Grey's Anatomy, Kai, was not the 1st non-binary character to be introduced to the show, and not even the 1st to appear in more than 1 episode. The first non-binary character was a teenager who ended up in the hospital with their mother twice, the 1st time after a snowmobile accident and the 2nd when a stem-cell therapy that could turn the mother's quadriplegia into paraplegia was found. Second, the reason I searched E.R. Fightmaster today was to learn their birth sex out of pure curiosity with all respect to their gender after rewatching old Grey's Anatomy episodes. I respect that E.R Fightmaster is nonbinary and that it would be entirely inappropriate to label them otherwise, I just thought that I would see something that would clue me into their birth sex under the "early life and career" section (ei. "born 'insert name'", as most actor's wiki pages do). It's sad that the only way to satisfy my non-judgemental curiosity in this article was this section right here where it is mentioned that protection would be added to the page due to people disrespectfully editing. It actually does seem a tiny bit judgemental to leave out their birth name from the "Early Life" section because any actor that had changed only their name and not their pronouns would have that in their wiki article. Mentioned with love! Clairebear03 (talk) 08:57, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2021
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Their birthdate is june 8th 1992. M4yb3.an4st4zja (talk) 15:48, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:53, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Birthdate is June 7, 1991
- https://latestinbollywood.com/emily-fightmaster-partner-real-name/ 2600:1700:AF8F:F08F:256D:AF71:B91B:F8C9 (talk) 03:35, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Pages with titles like "Emily Fightmaster Partner, Real Name, Age, Height, Wiki, Biography, Net Worth, Gender & More" are scraped-together masses of unscrutinzed data that aren't reliable sources. That doesn't mean the date isn't correct, but it means we can't rely on it based on that source. Largoplazo (talk) 10:42, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- At the end of the article (this one, Wikipedia) there is a link to E.R. Fightmaster's IMDB page. I don't know if that is considered a reliable source, but their birthdate is listed as June 8, 1992. 2600:6C60:4000:A585:C598:BE4E:4614:8C7 (talk) 20:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- IMDb is not a reliable source. It's like a wiki, bios are unreviewed user-generated contributions. Largoplazo (talk) 10:54, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- At the end of the article (this one, Wikipedia) there is a link to E.R. Fightmaster's IMDB page. I don't know if that is considered a reliable source, but their birthdate is listed as June 8, 1992. 2600:6C60:4000:A585:C598:BE4E:4614:8C7 (talk) 20:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Pages with titles like "Emily Fightmaster Partner, Real Name, Age, Height, Wiki, Biography, Net Worth, Gender & More" are scraped-together masses of unscrutinzed data that aren't reliable sources. That doesn't mean the date isn't correct, but it means we can't rely on it based on that source. Largoplazo (talk) 10:42, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2022
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Please remove "(also accredited as Emily Fightmaster)" This is not relevant to their career and fuels hate towards them. Do not deadname trans and non-binary celebrities. JJwikiedit (talk) 14:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Because it's easier then edit summaries. I'd originally thought the same @Largoplazo:, but I think it was just an artifact of the original article. Should it be rev-deled? Not sure policy on that aspect of deadnaming. Star Mississippi 15:35, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Birth name and gender. Why not?
editUntill ze (I think that's how its used) decided to be non binary, they were a girl. So why can't I get her birth name , and the fact she was raised as a girl. Then go on to write, they declared themselves non binary at such and such a time. As for the "trolls", if they were only changing theys to hers in early life. Then thats not trolling. It's factual. If they changed the pronouns thought the point of their declaration, then yes those are trolls and should be shunned untill they join the 21st century. 70.30.190.225 (talk) 11:58, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Because it's the guideline that has been established for the whole encyclopedia. See MOS:GENDERID. For people who weren't noted under their earlier name, it's treated as a matter of privacy. Largoplazo (talk) 13:30, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2022
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Born: June 08 1990 178.202.8.60 (talk) 21:04, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 21:07, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request (September 2023)
editMusical career: Fightmaster also releases solo music under the moniker FIGHTMASTER. They are a verified artist on Spotify. https://spotify.link/luQyWHFuuDb 47.54.13.22 (talk) 14:44, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Grammar Edits
editMisuse of pronouns suggest you are talking about more than one person. 2603:301B:2403:900:2011:C4D3:AF4A:7A5 (talk) 17:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- It sounds that way who aren't used to the new singular use of "they". There was a time when "you" was only the plural form ("thou" was the singular) for the second person. Then some people started using "you" as a singular term of respect, like "vous" in French. Over the years, people got more and more used to it as a singular as well. Nowadays, how many people use "thou"? So singular "they" is not misuse, it's an intentional new use. If your intent here was to ask for it to be changed in the article, it won't be. Largoplazo (talk) 21:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
PLEASE CHANGE (Deadnamed)
editPlease can someone change the 'born' section to exclude their dead name as it is disrespectful and instead change it to 'Emmet' as that is their chosen name. Thanks x Quinn09 (talk) 16:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:DEADNAME. People who were notable under earlier names (including trans people's dead names) have been documented under those names and are going to be looked up under those names. Sources cited to verify information about their earlier lives identify them by those names, so it needs to be clear that they're about the person being discussed. It's purely informational, there's no suggestion that it's OK to call them by those names now. Largoplazo (talk) 20:01, 21 October 2024 (UTC)