Talk:Earl of Shaftesbury

Proposed edits

It has been noted by User:Tryde that the article needs revisions. I have brought Tryde's concerns here. Cindamuse (talk) 09:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Lede

The lede currently offers inaccurate information pertaining to years of succession. User:Tryde states that it is "nonsensical, grammatically incorrect and gives the wrong information." I concur and offer the following proposed rewrite for your review. Cindamuse (talk) 09:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Earl of Shaftesbury is a title in the Peerage of England. It was created in 1672 for Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 1st Baron Ashley of Wimborne St Giles, a prominent politician in the Cabal Ministry, then dominating the policies of King Charles II.

In 1631, upon his father's death, Anthony Ashley-Cooper succeeded his father as 2nd Baronet of Rockbourne. In 1661, he was created Earl of Shaftesbury. At the same time, he was made Baron Ashley of Wimborne St Giles, in the County of Dorset; and Baron Cooper of Pawlett, in the County of Somerset. The Baronetcy of Rockbourne, in Southampton, was created in the Baronetage of England in 1622 for the Earl's father, John Cooper who sat as a Member of Parliament for Poole. These titles are also in the Peerage of England. Baron Ashley is used as a courtesy title by the Earl's eldest son and heir apparent.

Table format

It is proposed that the recent change from the list of title holders to a table of title holders be reverted to the list. User:Tryde states, "This kind of table for holders of titles has never been used in any articles on peerages or baronetcies, and I can't see why we would change this."

Comments

• I concur and prefer the list format. In my opinion, it is more appealing and doesn't overwhelm the rest of the article. If the reader is interested in the detailed information on each individual, they can follow the appropriate link to that article. Cindamuse (talk) 09:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Cooper Baronetcy

It is proposed that the recent change removing the Cooper Baronetcy be reverted. User:Tryde states, "[the list of the Cooper Baronetcy] has always been the style used to include holders of baronetcies and other junior titles in peerage articles, see for instance Earl of Kimberley.

Comments

• I concur, based on Tryde's statement that the previous junior title holders are included in peerage articles. Cindamuse (talk) 09:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

There is an MoS for peerage articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Peerage and Baronetage. Tryde (talk) 10:18, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

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