Talk:Early Irish astrology

Latest comment: 9 years ago by CorbieVreccan in topic Article Needs Expansion


Copyvios and inaccuracies

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As noted in the recent AFD decision for the "Magick Astrology" article - which was an exact duplicate of this one before I cleaned it up - the material I deleted was not only inaccurate, but a copyright violation. Please do not attempt to re-insert it as it is a violation of Wikipedia policies. Thanks. --Kathryn NicDhàna 21:01, 11 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi Mac, per the above, and per the sourced content in the article itself, your additions of "Tree Horoscope" lists, and links to quizzes and blogs are inappropriate. Please see Wikipedia guidelines on external links and verifiable sources. Please do not re-add them. Thanks. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna 22:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Article Needs Expansion

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Do note that Celtic astrology has a lot to do with the archaeoastronomical monuments found in former Celtic lands; many of these monuments (like the pyramids and such) had astrological/religious purposes but also had astronomical purposes in that it helped to form calendars and such -- many are also observatories, etc. This article could be expanded massively. --WassermannNYC 23:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

But Astrology and Astronomy are not the same thing. We touch on the pre-Celtic monuments in the Celtic calendar article. Basically, I don't see this article being substantially expanded until the mss. in question are published. Though if someone wants to paraphrase or quote from the Ellis articles, that would add some more content. Perhaps I can get to that at some point, but I'm rather busy right now. In the meantime, this is already flagged as a stub, so folks can see it can use expansion. I don't think it needs the big banner up top, so I'm going to remove that one. - Kathryn NicDhàna 17:38, 10 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Celtic astrology could be a serious article, including a section on "Early Irish astrology", but such an article would have to be written by somebody with a clue. The first step would probably be a serious cleanup of the existing Celtic calendar article.

Astrology and astronomy are very much the same thing, for any point in time prior to AD 1500 or so, so that's not a problem. The problem is separating the scholarly literature from all the kooky books on the topic. Here is an interesting link, in itself the article is too confused to be useful, but it may contain some pointers to relevant literature. --dab (𒁳) 09:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

What about merging elsewhere?

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Finally had a look at the sources Berresford-Ellis cites in his article that provides the main sourcing for this article. He misrepresented the source material. The source was simply and early translation of a standard, western astrological text, into the Irish language. He was speculating about a native system, and misrepresented his speculation as one that had evidence to back it up. - CorbieV 20:21, 25 January 2015 (UTC)Reply