Talk:East Bronx

Allerton

Recently "Allerton" was designated as a neighborhood and is listed as such by CB11. I would like to discuss including it here. BrandenburgG (talk) 01:28, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion - Chart.

I would like to expand the article by adding the following chart. Feedback is appreciated. HugoHelp (talk) 01:03, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Path to Bronx County by towns and villages
Westchester County 1683 Morrisania 1855 West Farms 1864 Kingsbridge 1874 Westchester 1654 Eastchester 1895 Wakefield 1889 Parts of Pelham West Bronx 1874 East Bronx 1895 City Island 1896 Bronx County 1914

Hi, it's nice to see someone working so diligently on the Bronx and other NYC places. I've been doing less this month, due to trips out of town. Your history chart of municipal consolidation is indeed a useful thing, but I don't see that the East Bronx is where it is most relevant. It belongs in the The Bronx#History. Well, that's already an oversize article; maybe the timeline article would be better. Come to think of it, the Bronx article's excess size is an indication of neglect; someone ought to study and identify the parts that are important enough to be their own article. Jim.henderson (talk) 13:14, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jim! Thanks for the feedback! I agree, the main Bronx article is oversized, which is one reason I didn't submit the chart there. The Timeline of the Bronx article is basically a list, so the chart wouldn't fit in there either. Adding the chart to the West Bronx and East Bronx articles seemed the best fit, until a History of the Bronx article is created. I'll hold off inserting the chart into any article. HugoHelp (talk) 16:08, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

1985 map?

@Jim.henderson it's questionable whether the map image you added in Special:Diff/773841990 is correctly labeled in Commons as being from 1897. It shows that 167th street has already been built, but from what I've been able to find, Fleetwood Park Racetrack still existed until 1898 or maybe a little bit later. I wonder if they drew the map based on planned streets and just failed to indicate that they didn't exist yet? -- RoySmith (talk) 21:53, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Could well be. The map is from a promotional book by the local chamber of commerce, showing how many happy, wealthy industrialists already lived in the Annexed District, and what great commercial opportunities remained. Not a genre that pays great attention to precision in mapping. And yes, published urban maps of the time often were copied directly from official street maps, which had many merely paper streets that were intended to be built pretty soon. Not the wonderfully detailed commercial maps such as those made for fire insurance purposes, but the ones that illustrated books, yes. Anyway we are merely using the map to show the stark east/west developmental contrast at the time, so maybe we don't have to be picky. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:54, 4 March 2022 (UTC)