Talk:Echo Beach

Robert Fripp

I seem to remember reading somewhere that this record was produced by Robert Fripp of King Crimson. I cannot find more than one reference to this on a google search, so while I probably remember correctly, I would like to have it verified properly before including it here on Wikipedia. Anyone have any input on this? --Kvaks 11:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I have the original UK Metro Music album (DID.1) and the entire album is credited to Mike Howlett as producer, with Richard Manwaring as engineer. I seem to remember that the single-mix for Echo Beach is the same as the album version, but I don't have the single itself to check. Ian Dunster 20:26, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I believe you are thinking of the Toyah Wilcox cover of Echo Beach (#54 UK in 1987), not the original Martha and the Muffins version which was produced by Mike Howlett and was a hit in 1980. 172.163.13.192 16:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure that's what I've been confusing it with. Thanks a lot. I must try to get a copy of that cover. --Kvaks 16:39, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

To bring this into perspecitve, the liner notes from Then Again (1998 best of CD) says this:"...Andy sent a copy of the tape to Glenn O'Brien...He played it for Robert Fripp (who liked it too - his wife, Toyah Wilcox would be the first person to cover "Echo Beach"..."Sherpajohn (talk) 15:07, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Sampling

Sampling is not notable, in the way that commercially released covers are. Songs are sampled everyday by various artists and that has nothing to do with the original artist or song. Sampling by some unheard of African therefore has no place on this songs article and is just wp:fancruft. Maybe if it is was by a very notable artist such as Madonna or the sampled song becomes a international hit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.87.131 (talk) 08:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

A band just using the hook of "Echo Beach" is not sufficient to be included on the article. If this band made a full cover then that would be acceptable. Otherwise this song article will become a magnet for Fancruft. Estragons (talk) 09:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I won't reinsert the information for the time being. I will check with our music guidelines and wikiproject for any precedents about use of samples in relation to inclusion in articles. I think this is notable enough to be mentioned and I'm not convinced by the "fancruft" argument here. 86.139.87.131 - I'm not sure why you think the nationality/race of the artist is relevant - does it matter if she was born in South Africa or somewhere else? Is there something I'm missing here? Exxolon (talk) 18:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Bali's Echo Beach

I don't know how to get this point out. I linked to my personal flicker showing a picture of the Echo Beach cafe in Bali, at a beach called Echo Beach. The beach gets its name from the cafe, who gets its name from the song. As you see in my photo http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Echo_Beach&oldid=418725799 (under "Popular Culture") the cafe sign quotes lyrics from the song. The owner, Wadi, plays the song several times a day for the patrons. I realize that my personal account does not meet the requirements, but how can my photo be refuted? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.12.250 (talk) 23:29, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

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