Talk:Edmond Audran

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Tim riley in topic Rating

WikiProject class rating

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 03:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Mistake

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Sorry, I not speak english very well. But I want speak for redactors of this article : Tierceville in département de Seine-et-Oise it is not in Calvados. Calvados is another département. Seine-et-Oise is old département, now name is Yvelines (78).

En français :

Excusez-moi, je ne parle pas anglais. Je voudrais cependant signaler aux rédacteurs de cet article que Tierceville dans le département de Seine-et-Oise ne se trouve pas dans le Calvados. Le Calvados est un autre département. La Seine-et-Oise est le nom d'un ancien département qui a été divisé. Le département actuel des Yvelines a repris son numéro (78).

Pour corriger l'erreur il faut enlever le mot "Calvados" écrit après Seine-et-Oise.

Basile (in french Wikipédia : Basilou). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.231.224.180 (talk) 23:19, 17 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Merci beaucoup. --Kleinzach 00:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

d.o.b.

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Two sources say 1842, and two say 1840. The former are the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica and the online Musical Theatre Guide. The latter are Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians (article by Andrew Lamb) and Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians. I take the latter two to be more authoritative, but a third convincing source for 1840 would be reassuring. - Tim riley (talk) 13:14, 10 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Later - The Times obit gives his age at death as 59, which, by a simple arithmetical process, indicates his year of birth as 1842. And this excellent French site, which I have drawn on for several articles, also says 1842 [1]. I have added a note stating the discrepant authorities. - Tim riley (talk) 13:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
I have no idea which is correct, but you probably overlooked that Grove also has a different date: 12 April 1840; the others have 11 April 1842. If the article follows Grove, it should also use their date. I've got the references on my screen now and I'm going to cite the discrepancy. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:52, 10 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
I did indeed overlook the day while checking on the year. Well caught! - Tim riley (talk) 15:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Recent changes

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User:Tim riley, please check the recent changes to Audran's article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:58, 6 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Rating

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The rating C is ineffective in the WikiProject Composers.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 08:58, 22 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

The project pages says that the rating is not "in active use", whatever that means. I'm not sure a Wikiproject can eliminate a rating, or whether talk pages must comply with the Wikiproject idiosyncrasies. but in any case, using the point scale at the bottom of the page at Wikipedia:WikiProject Composers/Assessment, I guess this article is at least B-class, then. It has 100% of these:
  • Origins/family background/studies 5
  • Early career 10
  • Mature career 25
  • List (or lists) of works (as far as current scholarship allows) with dates/catalogue numbers. (This may exist on a separate page.) 20
  • Critical appreciation 15
  • Illustrations and sound clips. 10
  • Inline references, sources and bibliography 10
  • Clear structure (WP:LEAD, etc.), compliance with WP:MOS, project guidelines, etc. 5

=100 points. But I believe that the article is clearly c-class, as the rating is used throughout the encyclopedia. BTW, I have participated in bringing some of the composer articles to FA class. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

I shouldn't like to comment on the rating − parti pris, and all that − but in any case I struggle to turn "The rating C is ineffective in the WikiProject Composers" into comprehensible English. Chomsky's "colorless green ideas sleep furiously" comes to mind. Tim riley talk 17:31, 22 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Ah! I think Johnsoniensis means that the banner above does not show the rating class, when it is stated as "c" -- the Wikiproject has disabled the C-rating it in its banners -- which is fine with me. No rating is better than a silly rating. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:49, 22 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
I see. Congratulations on cracking the code, in the best traditions of Champollion with the Rosetta Stone and whoever it was that worked out Linear B (or Linear C, or Linear Start Class, as we should now perhaps call it.) Tim riley talk 18:48, 22 June 2022 (UTC)Reply