Talk:Edmund Hillary/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 12:57, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Comments

This is a fine and mature article, and I'm basically ready to give it a GA without further ado. However there are a couple of things that might be worth polishing.

• The lead is perhaps a little short for the size of the article.

• "a holistic health philosophy developed by the health advocate Herbert Sutcliffe" - I can see why this was written like this, but all the same the gloss "the health advocate" comes across as a little repetitive.

• The "After Everest" section ends with several short paragraphs, which might be merged.

• The "Posthumous tributes" section similarly starts with several short paragraphs.

• The "Legacy" section is bulleted. It might equally be written as a single paragraph.

• I'm not sure of the justification for including a coat of arms section.

Noted other reviewer's comment on this below.

Non reviewer comments

I have checked the article in detail before this GA nomination, you can see some comments I made on the talk page, the gist of which is that I would like to expand the "After Everest" section slightly at some later point before FA, and that would help address the 'polish' of it. There is nothing significant missing, but fleshing out some detail is still possible, particularly in relation to his antarctic expedition.

The lead could perhaps be carefully expanded but right now it seems to me to be a good summary of all the key points in the article.

The legacy section could be merged with the posthumous tributes section directly above, and both converted to prose, however I don't think this would make a significant difference to the article. It is more a matter of style.

I have examined the images and think someone should check to be sure that fair-use of an image of a banknote is correct, otherwise all the images are perfectly fine.

I personally think the coat of arms is a good idea that works. a New Zealander having a coat of arms at all is worthy of attention, particularly with the Order of the Garter. The design is also very relevant to his life, which I presume was in the mind of the armorial people who devised it. The infobox-esque template used to show it in the article is better than any alternative method in my view.

In general I think this article is good, and meets all the GA criteria. Prince of Thieves (talk) 13:47, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Status?

I wonder, Chiswick Chap, whether you're ready to give final approval. We need to get this nominated at DYK right away if it's to be ready for April 1. EEng 06:16, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

EEng: The ball is in your court - I and the other reviewer have made some friendly comments which have been awaiting your opinion for some days. I will respond promptly to your replies. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:58, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

All the things I mentioned are dealt with to a reasonable standard, I believe this is 'good'. Prince of Thieves (talk) 09:06, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks, though in general when a reviewer mentions issues in a GAN, the implication is that a response is required. I'm just awaiting nom then. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:12, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, CC, I didn't realize you wanted those addressed as a condition of GA approval. I think they've all been addressed now, except expanding the lead – I don't see anything offhand that would be usefully added. A lot of the bulk is the tributes and legacy, and I think swelling the lead with more detail than the current "numerous honers" nod already there would seem lopsided. EEng 14:08, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks for the updates. I think we're good to go now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:04, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

The lead is currently a good executive summary of the main facts. His Order of the Garter is mentioned, which is the most important one. Prince of Thieves (talk) 14:14, 20 March 2018 (UTC)