Talk:Eduard Bernstein
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position on Trade Unions
editArticle says Bernstein was an unorthodox socialist because he was not hostile to Trade Unions. I always thought that Socialists are in favor of Trade Unions. Anyone? Grin0012 (talk) 17:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- I believe that statement is intending to say the opposite: that not being hostile to trade unions is one of the things that makes him still a socialist (albeit an unorthodox one), despite his hostility to Marxism. --Delirium (talk) 20:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- German Socialists were not hostile to trade unions but had problems with their "trade matters" attitude. Trade unions were seen as solely economic organisation, that had more interests in good wages than in changing the whole system. Kautsky for example spoke of the necessary connection between the political (party) and the economical (trade union) fight. To Bernstein the fight for better wages, better conditions, more rights were important to form a kind of a thinking, critical man, who could change the system. Bernstein's thinking is only understandable by concerning his contacts and experiences in Great Britain. To Bernstein the British radicalism was a role model for developing a democratic society that would lead into socialism. Trade Unionism was more important in Britain than in continental european countries, trade unions were the nucleus of the later Labour Party. --78.53.36.209 (talk) 12:25, 24 August 2009 (UTC) (sorry for my mistakes)
Peaceful theory of revolution?
editMarx did not argue nor did he ever imply, in any shape or form, that socialism is achievable through peaceful means i.e. legislative reform. Perhaps the following sentence implies that KAUTSKY interpreted Marx in that way but as it stands now, it leaves the impression that Marx actually proposed such an idea.
'This mature form of Marxism refers to Marx in his later life acknowledging that socialism could be achieved through peaceful means through legislative reform in democratic societies.'[4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.68.252 (talk) 04:26, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- Having just added a citation needed for this exact reason, I agree. 82.134.248.55 (talk) 15:17, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Wrong Picture Description?
editPicture down in the article "USPD Partei Board on 5 December 1919" - Date must be wrong. One of the people on the picture is according to description Hugo Haase, who was (according to his wikipedia entry) already dead by that time.
Bernstein’s View on First World War
editThe article is deficient in not describing what Bernstein’s view of WW1 was. Did he support Germany’s involvement in it or did he oppose that?
LIFE
editEduard Bernstein was born in Berlin-Kreuzberg in Anhaltische Kommunikation 12 (today Stresemann-Str. 44/46). Source: Leesch, Klaus Eduard Bernstein (1850-1932). Leben und Werk. Frankfurt/New York: Campus 2024, S. 63 2A02:8109:9C9B:700:4180:D962:366F:17DE (talk) 07:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)