Talk:Education in Austria/Archive 1
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Material for this article was taken from the Federal Research Division's Country Studies, which are not copyrighted. Wikipedia itself makes this clear and onlu requires acknowledgment of a scource which I did. (Alphaboi867 23:17, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC))
- If that's the case, I believe you can remove the copyvio notice. jdb ❋ 00:55, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I created a template, Template:Education infobox which can give a quick at a glance demographics table for education articles. See its implementation at Education in the United States and feel free to help improve the template.--naryathegreat | (talk) 00:59, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
Not very impartial...
This article seems not to be really impartial. Some things are right, but it totally closes down the Austrian higher education wich is actually not bad at all. Sure it could be better in many points, but when i compare the knowledge we gain in our HTL's and Fachhochschulen with the knowledge of the North-Americans i used to work with, I would say we are in average much higher skilled! I am talking about the average student now. There are top-students in North-America and Austria as well...
author is biased
For what it's worth, this article is rather biased. The Austrian educational systems is certainly not above criticism, but the author rather reiterates the positions of the SPÖ.
I think the main problem is the complete lack of any selection procedures and school assessment tests, so many children attend schools for which they aren't really qualified. The assertion that the AHS diploma leaves room for improvement because it supports rote learning and suppresses creativity is simpy wrong. The author has rightly noted that the AHS is meant to be a preparatory track for university, but he seems to have missed the fact that at university much more learning is required to make the grade. In fact, I believe it's problematic that the school leaving examinations are not centralised or standardised, so it's much easier to achieve a diploma in Vienna and the other cities than at a school somewhere in the countryside.
I don't understand why the author has mentioned "Der Schüler Gerber" by Friedrich Torberg. Schools, teachers and society have changed a lot since the 1930s. This only adds up to the fact that the author of this article must be very biased. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
The last paragraph seems to be biased towards neoliberalism... Reidlos (talk) 12:06, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
This Article needs some serious balancing and updating. One comes away with the impression that Austria has some sort of draconian rigid educational system that predestines children to a working class life at the age of ten. Having worked as an English teacher in Austria and Germany for over three years, I can attest that the negative tone of the article 1) represents SPOE positions more than objective reality 2) only briefly touches on the root cause of Hauptschule's declining popularity: foreign children who cannot speak German 3) This is clear is in areas with very low numbers of foreigners (i.e. not Vienna), Hauptschule's are still very popular. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.44.51 (talk) 10:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)