Talk:Edward Everett

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Edward Everett Hale?

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Was the orator (Gettysburg) Edward Everett a relation to Edward Everett Hale ("A Man Without a Country") and therefore, a relation to Edward Everett Horton, the actor (E.E.Hale's grandson)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.250.36.38 (talkcontribs) 19:53, Jan 2, 2005

[1] EE Hale was Everett's nephew. Kaisershatner 19:40, 19 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Confusing wording

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"In 1863 he delivered a two-hour Gettysburg Oration that has been eclipsed in history by President Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, which he praised as superior to his own." Who? Everett praised Lincoln's address, or Lincoln praised Everett's? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.134.247.212 (talkcontribs) 22:24, July 11, 2007

I fixed this, text later in the article makes it clear that Everett praised Lincoln's speech, not the other way around. Rickterp (talk) 17:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
He may have died Jan 1865, but in 1863, he sure had speech stamina! Full transcription of his Gettysburg address (including a lengthy footnote apparently added for this print version): http://www.nytimes.com/1863/11/20/news/address-delivered-gettysburgh-nineteenth-november-consecration-cemetery-prepared.html?scp=55&sq=bold%20robbery%20by%20river%20pirate&st=cse Enjoy on some sleepless night! B^) Wordreader (talk) 18:00, 15 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Educationist Work

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This section requires sourcing! And what is the source of the contention that Everett was the 1st American to receive a Ph.D.? Jperrylsu (talk) 21:53, 5 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

ummm, not THAT famous...

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In the Last Years section, the last paragraph:

". . .had a love for mathematics as can be seen from a famous quote: ‘In the pure mathematics. . ." [my emphasis]

I think this is a bit overstated. Perhaps the quote is a WOW! in the hallways of MIT, but I don't think it's generally "famous". I suggest something less strident, like: ". . .had a love for mathematics as can be seen from his quote: ‘In the pure mathematics. . ." OR "The quote, "In the pure mathematics. . .", demonstrates his love of mathematics." Something like that. Thanks for your consideration, Wordreader (talk) 18:26, 15 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Birthplace

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If the photo caption is correct and Everett was born in Dorchester, then he was not born in Boston. Dorchester wasn't annexed to Boston until after the Civil War. If so, the sentence should read "born in Dorchester MA, (now part of Boston)." MarkinBoston (talk) 17:01, 20 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Election result irregularities

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This article states that Everett lost the 1839 election "by a single vote", while the wikipedia article shows him loosing by 309 votes. Nathaniel Greene (talk) 22:15, 12 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

If his opponent had gotten one less vote, the election would have been decided in the legislature (which would have elected him, given its party distribution). This is the "single vote". (Yes, I found this confusing too when I first started poking at this issue.) Magic♪piano 00:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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Reviewer: Khazar2 (talk · contribs) 12:29, 7 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

I'll be glad to take this one. Comments to follow in the next 1-5 days. -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:29, 7 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

On first pass, this looks terrific as usual. It's fascinating to read about these lower-tier historical figures; I've seen Everett's name show up in various contexts before without ever connecting it into a single individual. I have one question that isn't really necessary for GA passage, below. I also made some tweaks as I went for various grammatical or stylistic reasons, and tried to add slightly more context about some of the figures and events mentioned here. If you object to any of it, feel free to revert and we can discuss further.

  • "which he believed to be the first such degree awarded to an American" -- this is a fascinating detail, but the phrasing invites the question of whether he was correct or incorrect about this. Does the source take a position on that? Or is there just no way to be sure? -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:24, 7 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
    • I don't think there's any way to know with any significant certainty. Brief bios of Everett sometimes blithely claim he was the first to receive a PhD; Frothingham was careful to attribute it to Everett's own assertion. Magic♪piano 14:10, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • The Congress.gov bio of his life thinks that his turning down a mission to China is worth a bullet point; I assume that's one of the offers he turned down from Webster. It's not main aspect enough to need inclusion for GA, but probably worth mentioning if you expand further.
I'm on the road, I'll get to these in a day or two. Magic♪piano 11:54, 8 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
I've tagged the images you mentioned below. Thanks for your review! Magic♪piano 14:10, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
My pleasure--thank you for all your work on it. -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:12, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Huh

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Re his legacy... looking at Edward Everett (disambiguation), it's quite obvious that people were naming their children after Everett in large numbers around and during the Civil War. Since for every person notable enough to have a Wikipedia article you can assume very many similarly-named who aren't, this is a useful demonstration of how truly famous and admired he was in his time. I guess this is one of those things that, while almost certainly true, would be nearly impossible to prove though. Herostratus (talk) 23:00, 29 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Legacy - Picture for inclusion

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When I was in Greece this summer, I took a picture of a bust of Edward Everett that was in a square (Platea Areos). As the article says, Everett's support of Greek independence made him somewhat of a hero. I wish to share the picture for inclusion in article if deemed appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AMarshallWP (talkcontribs) 15:10, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

How did Edward Everett became Gorvernor of Massachussetts?

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How did he do it? Fernandez0907 (talk) 01:07, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

When did Edward Everett made his first speech?

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The article mentions he began his speech career while teaching at Harvard. Fernandez0907 (talk) 18:58, 6 September 2023 (UTC)Reply