Talk:Edward Royce (director)

The Table was Changed to Incorrect Information

Despite correcting the table, it was changed to the incorrect roles for the subject of the biography. This takes aways credit to the actual directors of the shows if someone wants to use this table for another article. I vote for the article's table to be returned to the original form with the correct roles, based on reliable, published information. Starlighsky (talk) 15:11, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

I disagree. According to IBDB:

• The Marriage Market. No other director is listed for the show. Royce was the director. He may have also choreographed, but that is not clear.
• Betty. Same.
• The Century Girl, Have a Heart, Oh, Boy! Leave It to Jane, Kitty Darlin', Oh, Lady! Lady!! Rock-a-Bye Baby. Same
• Come Along. This one is a little more confusingly credited, but Jackson seems to be the producer, not the director. If you see anything that clearly states otherwise, we should note it.
• She's a Good Fellow. He co-directed.
• Apple Blossoms. Co-director.
• Irene (both productions). Director
• Ziegfeld (all productions). Same
• Kissing Time, Sally (both productions), The Love Letter, Good Morning Dearie, Orange Blossoms, Cinders, Kid Boots, Annie Dear, Louie the 14th, Princess Ida. Same
• The Merry Malones. Co-directed.
• She's My Baby. Directed

"Staging" was just an old-fashioned synonym for direction -- there was no other director for these shows. That is why the John Kenrick states that Royce "directed" the Princess Theatre shows, like Oh, Boy!. Theatres also used to say "musical staging" for choreography, but where only one person is listed, the director may also have choreographed, and we can add the "and choreographer" credit if there are reviews or other materials that so state. Director is clearer for modern readers and removes ambiguity. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:08, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

That makes sense. The director has the ability to change the storyline, but I see your point. Would you want to add co-director to those shows you mentioned? Starlighsky (talk) 18:09, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

I did it already! Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:02, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

More early London productions

• A Waltz Dream (1908). See this and this
• The Dollar Princess (1909) Same refs.
• The Doll Girl (1913) -- choreographer. Same refs.
• The Marriage Market (1913, both London and NY) Same
• Same sources say he was the Director of The Count of Luxemburg in 1911 -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:07, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
• The Happy Day by Seymour Hicks (1916)

I saw the Leeds University reference as well on a search engine, but am having trouble find on the site's list a reference to Royce. I just found it on the PDF. Just curious, why didn't you just add them to the page? I see now that you had already added most of what is listed in the reference you had mentioned. (User:Starlighsky)

Because I didn't have time. I left it here so I could refer to it today. I'll get to it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:04, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Now done. User:Starlighsky, what was your source for The Earl and the Girl? -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:04, 2 October 2023 (UTC)