Talk:Eels (band)

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Why should the title be "eels" (with a lower case 'e') and not "Eels"?

Yeah, why? I'm changing it back. (p.s. please sign your edits.) --Gika 07:51, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

"Eels" was spelled "eels" for the first two albums and thus many fans refer to them as such. On a related note, E was never known as "Mr. E" during his solo career nor has he ever been officially called this, so putting this informal nickname on par with his official moniker "E" would be confusing. It would be like calling Madonna "Ms. Madonna" or Dido "Ms. Dido." Yes, on stage he is often ironically introduced as "Mr. E" and there's a song with that in the title, but "E" is his official moniker for both his solo career and for Eels. Calbaer 18:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Blues?

Despite the album title, there's no discernable blues on any of the Eels albums that I've heard. There's a specific harmonic progression central to pretty much all blues -- a I / V / IV pattern -- and other typical features that aren't featured in the Eels' music. I'd like to remove that from the genre box. Scott.wheeler 16:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm updating this since there have been no objections. Scott.wheeler 11:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

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I've always thought that the blues in his album titles and songs meant: 'blues' as in 'feeling down' or 'upset' although i do see your point and hey, you could well be right. I know i'm sometimes wrong :o)

Kingkieran 15.48 05/07/07

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED TO Eels (band), per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 23:45, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

EELS (band) → Eels – Really a move back to where it used to be. No reason for page having been moved. Why? Why would one choose this capitalization? This was totally arbitrary, no consensus, discussion, or conventions cited. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 20:15, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Support. "Eels", as shown on the disambiguation page, refers only to the band. Gika 00:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 02:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose. The band article should be renamed as Eels (band). Eels should redirect to the disambiguation page as is general practice. older ≠ wiser 14:53, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
• Move to Eels (band) - Aquilina 18:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

Add any additional comments.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Koavf (talk • contribs) at 20:15, September 8, 2006

Ahem. Let me just say, first off, these "RM" efforts would be better spent on a request for the domain "Eels (band)". Now, since you've made this a case of "EELS (band)" over "Eels", I'll explain. The title "Eels" could easily refer to the species and several other uses. Analogy: Heroes redirects to Hero (disambiguation) as the title could be simply the plural for Hero or refer to, say, the new TV show. I've been disambiguating for hours and let me tell you, "eels" could refer to a lot of stuff, as could the all capitalized version. Thus, I cause the only remaining domain rather than doing the whole RM thing. (no offense.) Now, if you'll forgive me, the following might seem a bit rude.

It was messed up enough that this article—whose title should, without question, end with "(band)". (OVERCAPPED or lowercase)—had the domain "Eels". You people actually defending- no...insisting on it? WTF? Bottomline: plurals should, in general, redirect to the main article's title. Considering that, a link to the disambiguation page is pretty generous. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 02:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

But the disambiguation page lists only ONE disambiguation for the plural eel, which is the band. How can you say it refers to a lot of stuff? And anyway, wasn't the "for other uses, see..." on the top of the page enough? Gika 07:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I won't debate how many uses there are. At best, it still comes down to "Eel" and this article. Eel obviously came first and "eels" has been the accepted plural. Just because an encyclopedia article could replace a redirect doesn't mean it should. And no, the dab stuff on top is not okay. It should be avoided. The majority of people who link to or type in "eels" aren't looking for Mr. E and his band, okay? At best, a new disambiguation page would have to be made out of the "eels" domain and that's pointlessly redundant. The simple fact is, sometimes the "good" titles are tied up with other purposes. I disambiguated Deadpool (comics) from Deadpool a few days ago because the term "dead pool"—with or eithout spaces—predates the fictional character.

Now, he's my advice: change te requsted title to "Eels (band)". It just isn't logical for this article to have such an ambiguous title. And hey, if it makes you feel any better, it took a lot of practice—transliteration: mistakes—to understand, respect and generally get good at this who disambiguation thing. I was like you guys. I held up the disambiguation of Thor (comics) to Thor (Marvel Comics). I'm also sorry for not explaining my actions more clearly and leaving the article with an undesired title. Good luck with your move request. I hope you'll come around soon. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 09:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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Removal of External Links

I have removed a few external links from the page. Most were no longer active and one, Behind the Church, violated copyright in reproducing lyrics without permission (see WP:COPY and WP:EL for the policies that I have applied here.) Thanks. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 22:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

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Shrek Soundtrack

Why is talk about the inclusion of 2 songs in Shrek 3 given space above the contents? This should surely be moved down? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.84.129 (talk) 21:14, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Dubya Hates Daisies

For anyone with a mind to I've a small piece of news from Eels official website on the Daisies of the Galaxy cover 'scandal'. It's about halfway down, listed under 10/30/2000. http://www.eelstheband.com/news/index00.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.202.237.191 (talk) 03:21, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I linked some better sources from the article, and fixed the article, which said that Bush was president in 2000 and wanted to have the album banned, two obviously laughable things. Bush likely was never aware of the album, but his staff issued a press release (and had spokesmen Ari Fleischer and Dan Bartlett talk) about how an album with profanity and cartoon imagery was given away at a Democratic get-together. (Actually, I doubt both talked about this; it's likely one did and was mistaken for the other. If anyone has any info about this, please share.) The point was not to ban the album, but that Democrats were supposedly beholden to the entertainment industry. The Bush campaign likely thought this was a Joe Camel approach to entertainment that should be enjoyed by adults. The link you gave is useful, however, since the Post article is no longer online at the Post's site. Calbaer (talk) 19:35, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Hellboy 2

Beautiful Freak was in Hellboy 2. Can someone add that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Videogamer765 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I have to go to work but ditto that. Beautiful Freak was featured pretty prominently in Hellboy 2 Deatonjr (talk) 11:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

This article needs help

This article badly needs a rewrite, or at least a reworking. Too much of the material is utter fancruft, and a lot of it has either nothing to do with the band's notability, or is entirely unimportant. I mean, an entire section on a dog? I went ahead and removed that section, as well as trimmed down the fan section to remove some of the hyperbolic statements and unrelated portions. I mean, a karaoke contest? Hardly notable or important. On a less extreme note, I recommend that the "history" section simply be repurposed into a "history" section that includes the formation of the band, as well as more information on their activity before, in-between and after albums. (of course, only NOTABLE information.) There's definitely a ton of potential for this article, but it seriously needs some help. Also, I think that the template needs to be re-worked. I understand that there have been several members of the band, but I hardly think that 53. Remember, just because they contributed to an album does NOT mean that they were part of the band. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 06:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree, it needs to be reworked. I am a fan of the band, and I hadn't heard of half of the stuff mentioned in the article on any other site, which seems to lend credence to the non-notability of much of the article. It's hard to know what is notable for this band besides their albums, however, (I think, at least) simply because of the fact that they don't sell a ton of albums and aren't well known. 69.161.78.31 (talk) 18:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Someone also needs to clarify the reason for the title of Hombre Lobo. The album received its title b/c it is a concept album of sorts. The entire album is written from the perspective of a love sick werewolf that can't have the (human) girl of his dreams. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.1.253.26 (talk) 18:55, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

The dog (Bobby Jr.) is really an important part of E's life, he features in most of E's video's and has even a section on the official Eels website. [1] So although it may look strange, he should be mentioned somewhere. Acriel (talk) 13:38, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Bad dude in love

Bad dude in love is the first solo album of E. If 'A man called E' and 'Broken Toy Shop' is mentioned under E solo records, there should be a reference of this one too. On the Eels' discography there is already a reference of it. Acriel (talk) 13:38, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

On second thoughts, I should admit that E is rather ashamed of this LP. It was released in 1985, when he was 22. The official Eels website doesn't even mention it, but on the other hand there is already a wiki-page devoted to it [2] Acriel (talk) 13:51, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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Electro Shock Blues

should read 'died by suicide' in place of 'committed suicide' 82.41.4.147 (talk) 22:01, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Why? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:43, 9 June 2023 (UTC)