Talk:Effects and aftermath of rape

Cites

This article references a lot of papers, but most of them only by author and year: can we have full cites for all of them, please? -- The Anome 17:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Overhaul

I removed the copy-edit flag--I edited heavily, wrote a new lead-in, and reordered a lot of the information. It may need some other kind of notice, but I'm too new to know which one. The title of the article seems a little forced, which is why I used just effects of rape in the lead-in. I didn't know how to change the title; if someone else could do it, that would be great! IrisWings 10:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

More after effects

The comments typed below are not in compliance with any current scientific data. Women do not enjoy rape, they do not become sexually excited and children (for example the 16-year-old below) have no business submitting entries to Wikipedia.

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I would like to add these POSSIBLE after effects of rape: 1. Towards the end of the rape, biology takes over and the victim becomes sexually excited. Afterwards the victim feels guilty because they participted in the rape. There is a sense of self-hate due to this reaction. 2. Every time the victim has sex after the rape, the victim can't help but think of the rape. Victim relives the rape as a sexual fantasy. Again, a feeling of guilt and self-loathing occurs. 3. These guilt feelings make rape WORSE for the victm, not better. People who have not been raped sometimes get the idea that because the victim gets turned on and "enjoys" the rape that it lessens the damage of the rape. Afterall, she "enjoyed" it. Not true at all, becuase yes the victims does have sexual feelings related to the rape and rapest (falling in "love" with one's rapist), but then the victim says, "wait, that is wrong, how could I possibly feel this way?

Bottom line, rape messes with one's sex life, inner fantasy and erotic life, which does terrible damage.

Discussion? Objections? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aviatorpilotman (talk • contribs) 16:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

i do not know what planet you are from, but persons being raped do not switch tracks and "become sexually excited" that is a male fantasy, particularly egregious and insulting to anyone who has been subjected to that invasion. 70.48.37.76 (talk) 21:16, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

It is a biological reaction, the brain sees sexual material and sends signals to the victim's genitals. Being sexually exited ≠ enjoying the intercourse. It's called a groinal reaction, I believe. 2A0A:EF40:125B:B601:31EB:6C18:A4D:5449 (talk) 19:03, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes. All of that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.190.246.104 (talk) 10:21, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

What about Depression and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, two common psychological effects of rape? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.128.33.183 (talk) 16:31, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, rape victim's bodies frequently respond to the manipulation, even to the point of orgasm. This often does increase the guilt and shame of the victim. It is one of the least-discussed effects of rape, because the guilt and shame are even worse (!) that "regular" rape.

The "falling in love" I would see more as Stockholm Syndrome, and in long-term assault relationships. However, one feature that makes extended rape (i.e. incest) possible is manipulation. Children and other vulnerable people are manipulated into these relationships. The pre-teen and teen trafficing survivors I have worked with ALWAYS were in love with their abuser/pimp/seller/whatever he is called. As far as I have seen, the manipulation almost always carries a carrot/stick reward/threat factor.

The arousal issue is possibly a major factor in the fact that men's rapes are not seen as real (or important?) I believe the thinking is that if he gets an erection, its not rape. Not true...

Laurel 05:28, 7 May 2017 (UTC) laurel

References

No aftermath...

Posted by children. Deleted. The unsubstantiated comments by children are not relevant. This is not Facebook.

Male Victims

I was wondering if male victims of rape are effected differently that female or child victims. This article mainly focuses on female victims, with a special section about children, and nowhere does it mention male victims. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 16:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

It may be that there's simply not much research available for adult male victims, though the article does seem to assume that child victims are at least nearly always female. If it's just a lack of adult male victims being researched, a mention of 'BTW nobody cares enough to study men' would go a long way. 75.177.89.14 (talk) 16:25, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

not using condoms will increase the likelihood of not becoming pregnant

The third paragraph of the Pregnancy section currently reads

"Experience of coerced sex at an early age reduces a woman’s ability to see her sexuality as something over which she has control. As a result, it is less likely that an adolescent girl who has been forced into sex will use condoms or other forms of contraception, increasing the likelihood of her not becoming pregnant."

Am I understanding correctly that "not using condoms will increase the likelihood of not becoming pregnant" and therefore "using condoms will increase the likelihood of becoming pregnant"? This seems very wrong given that this is exactly the opposite purpose of condoms! Is this a mistake or is there something in the research which isn't being represented very well here? (I'm not able to access the cited materials at JSTOR). Astrolox (talk) 19:46, 31 May 2011 (UTC) Sorry for multiple edits. I think this grammar is confusing and needs updating. --Astrolox (talk) 19:55, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Sexist?

Sort of offensive that this is written almost entirely about women. Not saying men section needs to be added. But maybe it should be Effects and aftermath of rape (in women). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.101.35.157 (talk) 23:55, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree. The unspoken assumption that only women are raped is a complete abandonment of even a semblance of balance. At least change the title to "Effects and Aftermath of Rape on Females" or something similar. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.88.108.26 (talk) 03:22, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Sexist for sure! Needs to take both sexes into consideration, or change the title as proposed. XavierItzm (talk) 23:36, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

I agree, title s/b Effects and Aftermath of Male-to-Female Rape Laurel 05:04, 7 May 2017 (UTC)laurel

uterine fibroids.

How does rape cause uterine fibroids. This is not well cited 64.126.116.74 (talk) 18:33, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Needs to address more subgroups, reorganization

I noted that this article addresses almost solely male-on-female rape, with a small addendum devoted to adult-on-child rape and a very small mention to other subgroups.

This article could be improved by addressing the following:
Male-on-male rape
Female-on-female rape
How various factors in the rape affect the aftermath, such as whether the rape was incestuous, whether it was perpetrated by someone with authority over the victim, whether it was a rape by multiple assailants, whether it was vaginal, anal, oral, et cetera.

Failing to address other subgroups diminishes the experiences of the whole and makes it appear that they are less "real" or prevalent.

Until these factors and other groups are addressed, this article remains incomplete. In addition, I would recommend making this article more cohesive and better organized. The article could be broken down into male-on-male, male-on-female, female-on-male, adult-on-child, child-on-child, and perpetrator-on-elderly (or some variation thereof), and then into physical impact, psychological impact, and sociological impact, and then further into any pertinent topics. Doing such would contribute to greater cohesiveness and clarity throughout the article.

SpiceUpTheMind (talk) 04:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Excellent and valid points. Laurel 05:05, 7 May 2017 (UTC) laurel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurel (talk • contribs)

INTRODUCTION

The introduction to the article needs to be removed and completely rewritten by a competent professional academic researcher or other qualified professional. This phrase: "physical force is not necessarily used in rape" is completely wrong. Rape, by definition, is an act of physical violence and it is a crime. The article, over all, is very poorly written, the facts are muddled, and the research for the article is insufficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.33.32.121 (talk • contribs)

• I think that rape is an act of SEXUAL violence, and a rape can be accomplished using fear, intimidation, mental overpowering, brainwashing, etc. I think your comment is completely wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.130.204.49 (talk) 18:09, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Language Log

Today's Language Log blog pointed out awkward grammar in this sentence in the Self-blame section:

Sometimes in an effort to shield oneself from believing such a thing could happen to their loved one, a supporter will make excuses for why the event occurred.

In the next sentence, is "support" supposed to say "supporter"? I'd say the whole paragraph probably needs some tweaking for tone and grammar. I don't know when I'll have time, so I'm leaving this comment here for other editors or as a reminder to my future self. —PermStrump(talk) 18:58, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Another problem is that the text was not referenced. It appeared very similar to something in an article published in 2014. Since the addition was apparently made in 2010, it would appear not to be plagiarism and/or copyright violation by the Wikipedia editor, but I don't know if both articles have the same author or if the authors of the other article used Wikipedia as a source, or if there is another explanation. I have reworded the text a bit and added a citation-needed tag, and included the article with the similar text in a comment. If the comment-cited article can be used as a reference, it should be borne in mind that it apparently deals only with female-victim rape. Ideally someone can find a better source that is not gender-specific and the text can be rewritten and sourced accordingly. --Boson (talk) 21:55, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

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Psychological Impacts

I intend to edit the section titled "Psychological Impacts." As it currently stands, it does not fully address pyschological effects for men and women. I'm going to make subsections to discuss fear and anxiety;post traumatic stress disorder; depression; self-esteem; and sexual functioning. I also plan to add a section exclusively for male rape survivors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleycavss (talk • contribs) 17:55, 25 March 2019 (UTC)