Talk:Egg London

Peacock terms and general tone

Calling a venue an electronic music "institution" is a WP:PEACOCK term. It'd be better to have some quotes that put that into context, but it's probably enough just to mention awards.

Tonally it's also off to say that a building "has a predilection for techno and house" and "enjoys a 24-hour license", the article should take a WP:FORMAL tone and say these things more straightforwardly. (Which also helps the reader understand what the article is actually meaning to communicate - as written, it's unclear whether "has a predilection" is trying to say that the venue plays techno and house music almost exclusively, or that this is just an occasional but remarkable foible and they usually play something else.)

Is "Egg London nightclub or Egg LDN is..." correct? (Rather than just "Egg London or Egg LDN is...") Do people call it "Egg London nightclub"? --Lord Belbury (talk) 21:27, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

1)i'm happy to replace 'institution' with 'venue'. 2) I can't see what's wrong with having a predilection; the club plays primarily house and techno music. it was founded on those principles. so i would call that a predilection. 3) 'enjoys' to me indicated that any club would surely 'enjoy' having a 24 hours licence rather than experience any other particular emotion about it, but that's fine I can change that to 'is granted'. 4) re- the name: i'm not sure what the issue is perhaps you can expand on that. - Jackpickard1985 4/4/2018 22:38 —Preceding undated comment added 21:38, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

The problem is that "predilection" is an ambiguous word which the reader could take in various ways. If the venue primarily plays two genres, it's clearer to just say that.

The issue with the opening sentence is just that it reads oddly (to me) to say "Egg London nightclub [...] is a superclub" instead of just "Egg London [...] is a superclub". Why is the word "nightclub" in there? --Lord Belbury (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

The nightclub tautology: fine I have removed it. As regards the word 'predilection' I'm not sure I see the ambiguity here. I also don't think that, to be precise, language needs to be bland. In what way could it confuse the reader to use this word? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackpickard1985 (talk • contribs) 23:45, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

"Predilection" can be read in two different ways. The word means "a preference or special liking for something". If I have a predilection for bacon and eggs, does that mean I eat bacon and eggs most days, or that I eat it occasionally as a treat? --Lord Belbury (talk) 07:50, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Since I don't know the exact ratio of techno and house music as compared to other forms of music played, only that Egg London has a preference for these music types, I would have though this made the word entirely accurate Jackpickard1985 (talk) 14:18, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

But one person will read the "predilection" sentence and assume Egg plays almost entirely techno/house, another will read it as Egg having a slight but indulgent tendency towards these genres. One of these people will get the wrong idea about Egg, and that's bad for that person, bad for Wikipedia and bad for the venue.

You said above that "the club plays primarily house and techno music" - if that's the case, the article could just use those words. If you're having second thoughts about what genres the venue plays, maybe we could check how it advertises itself. --Lord Belbury (talk) 13:59, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

I have clarified that as "The venue has historically demonstrated a primary interest in techno and house music, however at present a variety of electronic dance music is regularly featured in addition to those genres." Jackpickard1985 (talk) 16:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Much clearer. Thanks. --Lord Belbury (talk) 16:05, 5 April 2018 (UTC)