Talk:Eight magic words

Exceptions?

Do these restrictions only apply in Federal elections? Or are street-level signs allowed to violate them?

For example, "Re-Elect ______" is a very common phrase in the political signs that sprout like mushrooms before elections, although I don't recall whether I've seen this in U.S. federal races. -- Parsiferon 23:22, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Back in 2006 both the word equivalent and the reasonable person test were in place so yes if these were sponsored by the wrong type of individuals then they would have not been allowed. An individual is allowed to state their opinion. The difference is who paid for the sign and materials?Pbmaise (talk) 05:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Unclear: what are the Eight Words?

The external article does not even define them. Colonial One 19:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

The magic words are "vote for," "elect," "support," "cast your ballot for," "Smith for Congress," "vote against," "defeat," "reject." I was creating an article (which I then immediately turned into a redirect after folding it into Buckley v. Valeo) on the topic when I found this article. I've since been told that my original text was patent nonsense, so I've completely rewritten it and posted it in the talk page of Buckley v. Valeo for consideration. It probably still needs a good work-over, but in terms of explanatary power I think it's far superior to the current content of this article. -csswasey 08:22, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The words are not on the articlePbmaise (talk) 08:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

That's what puts the magic in "magic pan"

Also, is the article suggesting that saying

John Smith is an honest man who stands up for the people. Bill Jones is a chronic liar who's taken money from special interests and advocated cutting Social Security. Call Bill Jones and tell him how you feel about this

is the same thing as using the magic words? Because it's not, and that's precisely what makes the magic words magic. -csswasey 05:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Rewrite of Feb 2012

Most of the information on the page was based on data before Citizen United ruling. I've written most of it but please feel free to correct typos and make it shorter/clearer.Pbmaise (talk) 14:12, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I used the rarely heard word Demagification to remove the magic from the words. I debated using casting the spell out of however, it just didn't work, and removing powers didn't sound good either. So word of the day is demagification. Expect it in your local dictionary tomorrow.Pbmaise (talk) 05:10, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

This article should be deleted

This article is full of factual errors about the law (for example, the phrases/words in Buckley are merely illustrative, not exhaustive - no court has ever held that the definition of "express advocacy" is limited to those words, and Bopp did not advocate that position in the case suggested.) The article really provides no enlightenment at all. I've edited it substantially to try to make it more accurate, but it really should simply be deleted.Gadfly1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:52, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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Origin of phrase

It would be nice if this article provided the origin of the phrase "eight magic words" or "magic words test" or similar. Because, although the concept is attributed to Buckley, the phrase appears nowhere in the opinion. Indeed, the word "magic" appears nowhere in Buckley. 69.174.144.79 (talk) 21:55, 12 February 2023 (UTC)