Talk:Ein Samiya

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Vaticidalprophet in topic Did you know nomination

DYK?

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User:Onceinawhile: Should we go for a DYK? Huldra (talk) 22:12, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Hi @Huldra: yes good idea. Do you want me to submit it? Onceinawhile (talk) 06:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
How about the following hook: "… that Ein Samiya, which provides the water for Palestinian beer, was depopulated in 2023 after decades of harassment by neighboring Israeli settlers?"
Onceinawhile (talk) 07:25, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi @Onceinawhile: sounds good. But we have to remove/source all unsourced material in the article first... Huldra (talk) 20:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. In the meantime I have opened the nomination, given that has to be done within the first seven days. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:20, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk09:31, 9 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

 
Ein Samiya
  • ... that Ein Samiya (pictured), which provides the water for Taybeh, Palestine's first beer, was depopulated in 2023 after harassment by neighboring Israeli settlers? Source: Meneley, Anne (2014). "Resistance Is Fertile!". Gastronomica. 14 (4). University of California Press: 69–78. doi:10.1525/gfc.2014.14.4.69. ISSN 1529-3262. JSTOR 10.1525/gfc.2014.14.4.69. The only ingredient that guarantees Palestinianness is the natural spring water from the Ein Samia spring. This is an important point, as water in Palestine is now under serious threat, with Israelis controlling 80 percent of the water in the West Bank, and springs, like olive trees, are very much a target of Israeli settler colonialism. Manning (2012: 223), speaking of Georgian beer production, has an interesting analysis of how European beer technology insures quality of production, but marketing authentic Georgianness focuses on two elements: the ethnographic tradition of Georgia's mountain peoples, and Georgian nature in the form of the mountain spring water that has been renowned for centuries. In the case of Palestine, the Ein Samia water is the guarantor of Palestinian authenticity while the European ingredients and techniques are the guarantors of quality. In Taybeh's promotional material, it is not ethnography that is drawn upon but discourses about resources in Palestinian nationalism; water is as much of a concern as land. Customers are urged to Drink Palestinian in order to Taste the Revolution, linking beer consumption to a wider political project of freeing Palestine from the Israeli occupation. and "Palestinian community forced to evacuate Ein Samia - UNOCHA". The Jerusalem Post. 2023-05-26. Retrieved 2023-05-26. A Palestinian community in Ein Samia has been evacuated on Monday to make room for settlers, according to a report by the United Nations Office for Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA). Members of a Palestinian shepherding community in Ein Samia in the Ramallah district of the West Bank have begun dismantling their homes and leaving. Residents said they are being forced to leave due to the violence from settlers; Ein Samia was home to 178 people, including 78 children. Acting Humanitarian Coordinator Yvonne Halle claimed: "These families are not leaving by choice; the Israeli authorities have repeatedly destroyed houses and other buildings they own and threatened to destroy their only school." She added: "At the same time, the available grazing land has dwindled due to the expansion of settlements. Both children and adults have experienced settler violence."

Created by Onceinawhile (talk) and Huldra (talk). Nominated by Onceinawhile (talk) at 21:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ein Samiya; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply

  •   New, long enough article. Sources look good; a few are from the 19th century, but the information from them is presented as historical material. I didn't find any copyright issues. There are three paragraphs in the article without citations that I have tagged. The article's claim that Taybeh is Palestine's only local beer is not supported by the Jerusalem Post article, which however says it's the first Palestinian beer and the largest microbrewery in the region. Does Gastronomica support the claim that it's the only one (I can only read the first page)? I don't like the Easter egg link in the hook, maybe change it to "Taybeh beer", "Palestine's first brewey" (if you add that info to the article) or a combination. I don't see support for the claim that the harrassment had gone on for decades in the article, nor in the Jerusalem Post article and UN source. It may very well be true, but unless there is another source, it's safest to leave it out and just say harrassment. Otherwise, everything looks good. QPQ is done. The image is free, appears in the article and looks good in small size. Ffranc (talk) 10:56, 7 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi Ffranc (and Iskandar323), thank you for your comments. I have added sources to the article as required, and amended the hook as suggested. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:03, 11 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
  Looks good! Ffranc (talk) 09:31, 11 June 2023 (UTC)Reply