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DEDs partly covered by county boroughs

In the LGBI days, if a county borough border moved moved and split a DED, the LGBI would change the DED boundaries in synch. Not so in the Free State and Republic 1922–1994: if part of a DED named Foo was now inside the county borough, the part outside is listed in subsequent censuses as "Foo (part)". The part inside is not referred to at all, as "Foo" or "Foo (part)" or anything else; in a county borough it is the wards which matter; the fact that part of a DED overlaps with one or more of the wards is ignored. Then in 1994 both wards and DEDs are renamed EDs. Technically this means that there are places in two EDs, one an ex-DED and the other an ex-ward. But in such cases the ex-DED is ignored.

Here's a list of ex-DED EDs with "Part" in the name on the CSO census site; also a few ex-ward EDs apparently retaining the name of the DED. The DED number has 5 digits, first two indicate the county/city sequence number and last three the DED's sequence number within the county/city.

Galway

• Baile an Teampaill (Part Rural), Co.Galway, 27042
• Ceathrú an Bhrúnaigh (Part Rural), Co.Galway, 27047
• Galway Rural (Part Rural), Co.Galway, 27052 (In 1898 Galway DED was split into 5: Galway N/S/E/W Urban inside the urban district and Galway Rural outside it; then in 1985 part of Galway Rural DED was transferred to the new county borough of Galway)
• Bearna (Part Rural), Co.Galway, 27044
  • Bearna, Co.Galway, 26003

Waterford

• Ballynakill (Part Rural), Co.Waterford, 25070
  • Ballynakill, Co.Waterford, 24005 (not adjacent to the Part Rural)
• Kilculliheen (part), Co.Kilkenny, 07106
• Faithlegg (Part Rural), Co.Waterford, 25072
• Kilbarry (Part Rural), Co.Waterford, 25074
  • Kilbarry, Co.Waterford, 24020

Cork

• Rathcooney (Part Rural), Co.Cork, 18101
• St. Mary's (Part Rural), Co.Cork, 18103
• Bishopstown (Part Rural), Co.Cork, 18078 (two segments left outside the city!) townlands.ie also seems to have a map of the pre-1955 undivided DED; before the city portion was divided into 5 wards:
  • Bishopstown A, Co.Cork, 17006
  • Bishopstown B, Co.Cork, 17007
  • Bishopstown C, Co.Cork, 17008
  • Bishopstown D, Co.Cork, 17009
  • Bishopstown E, Co.Cork, 17010

Then there is the (sole?) case where it was a borough, not a county borough, whose border extension split a DED:

Drogheda

• St. Mary's (Part Rural), Co.Meath, 11047
• St. Mary's (Part Urban), Co.Louth, 10047 (two segments taken inside the borough)

jnestorius^(talk) 02:02, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Northern Ireland

The NI census gives the total number of DEDs as 701 in 1926 699 in 1937, 703 in 1951.

Then in 1966 it gives 611 rural DEDs with no numbers for urban DEDs. The Ulster Yearbook of 1973 p. 27 has the following:

County	Urban DEDs	Rural DEDs	Notes
Antrim	30	121
Armagh	10	72
Down	23	115
Fermanagh	-	-	The UD and 3 RDs in Fermanagh were abolished in 1968, but they and their DEDs were still used for 1971 census
Londonderry	6	60	This seems to include county borough and county-at-large; Londonderry Co Borough and Urban (prev Rural) District were abolished in 1969 but they and their DEDs were still used for 1971 census. However, I count the 1971 DEDs thus: 3 wards (?DEDs) in Co Borough 1 DED in each of 3 old Urban Districts (Coleraine, Limavady, Poststewart) 13 DEDs in Londonderry Urban District 67 DEDs in 3 Rural Districts (Coleraine 21, Limavady 23, Magherafelt 23) Which I can't resolve into the 1973 statistics by any allocation of abolishments.
Tyrone	11	134
Belfast	15	-
Total	95	502	Grand total 597 excluding Fermanagh and part of Londonderry

jnestorius^(talk) 19:48, 24 November 2021 (UTC)