Talk:Electric vehicle warning sounds/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 22:48, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I will be reviewing this article for GA status, and will have a full review up shortly.

Great, I will be taking care of your suggestions and requests, but I want to let you know that I am on vacation until next Monday, and juggling with a couple of ongoing GAs, so I will be attending your requests in a piecemeal fashion at first. I expect to respond more timely after I return from my vacation. Thanks.--Mariordo (talk) 23:08, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

With that in mind, I will start the one week waiting period on January 10. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:24, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I really appreciate your understanding.--Mariordo (talk) 23:34, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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The article looks pretty good overall. However, there are a few issues which lead me to place this on hold:

A large number of the cites are to blogs or press releases. This inevitably will cause questions of RS to arise. With this in mind, the best way to resolve this issue would be to cite blogs sparingly and only when necessary. I am willing to accept some blog citations, for example, one much-cited blog is from the New York Times, and it could be argued that since the NYT vets its bloggers, it would be more reliable than _____'s blog. So basically, are all cited blogs reliable?

Please see this discussion regarding the common use of blogs in auto related articles. Besides the NYT, other reliable blogs published by organizations (not self published individuals) include Autoblog/AutoblogGreen (same organization), Edmunds.com InsideLine, HybridCars.com and PluginCars.com. It is my understanding that these "blogs" produce content that can be use as a reliable source keeping in mind the spirit of RS policies, sound judgment and considering the obvious exceptions, such as readers comments, opinion pieces and speculative content. The extensive use of these non conventional reliable sources is due to the fact that information regarding hybrids and plug-in electric vehicles and other automotive advanced technologies has been evolving too fast since 2006-07 and the latest developments are only found in newspapers, specialized magazines, and this serious blogs (of course after filtering what is not RS according to WP). I would like to suggest to flag those specific instances in which a citation is not in agreement with RS principles to look for an alternative source.--Mariordo (talk) 23:08, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

That discussion indicates that there is a consensus for Autoblog et al as RS, so long as they are used carefully. This alleviates my concerns. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 18:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

As mentioned in the article, the problem of "vehicle quietness" is not limited to electric cars. Has there been any use of these devices for gasoline cars? There is no need for a ICE vehicle warning sounds, as any info on that could easily be placed here, perhaps with a renaming (eg vehicle warning sounds).

Yes, I tried to provide a comprehensive background, but the intended scope of the article is limited to the risks created when gasoline-electric hybrids and plug-in electric cars operate in electric mode (EV mode) and are too quite to be heard at low speeds. To the best of my knowledge the only similar situation (but different context and technology solution - it does not use digital sounds) is in the case of internal combustion engine vehicles that emit a beeping warning sound when performing a back up maneuver (this is a built-in manufacturer feature pretty standard these days around the world). For the sake of completeness I can look for a RS to make the parallel and the origin of any existing regulation for this case (in the background section). I do not think that a renaming is required considering the intended scope.--Mariordo (talk) 01:01, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 03:23, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree that renaming isn't necessary. Vehicle reverse noises aren't electric vehicle warning sounds per se, so adding info on that is your call. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 18:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Haviong looked at the sources, I believe that they are reliable enough for use in WP. Hence, this article meets the GA criteria and I am therefore promoting it.

As for suggestions for further improvement, please continue to update the article as new versions/applications/vehicle appear. During this GAN the article was updated to indicate that the applicable US legislation had been signed into law. In other words, keep on maintaining the article and keeping it up to date. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 06:00, 14 January 2011 (UTC)