Talk:Electricity sector in Norway

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Is this POV?? Please can we have sources for this opinion. Ian Cairns 19:36, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Maybe I'm missing something, but how is the part regarding osmosis relevant to the article in general? Ddesmet (talk) 21:56, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Average electricity use (200) 25 kW·h per capita Is this correct? What means (200)? 25 kWh per capita. Is this the consuption per day or per year? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.180.22.115 (talk) 11:14, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

What does the fuel mix mean? I thought 98% of electricity was from renewables, does fuel mix just take into account gasoline? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.69.46.14 (talk) 20:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Poorly written article. I suggest someone pull in the actual figures from there:

http://www.ssb.no/en/energi-og-industri/statistikker/elektrisitetaar/aar/2013-03-20?fane=tabell&sort=nummer&tabell=104227 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.61.23.240 (talk) 13:25, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

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Confusing or even Contradictionary Information

I'm just completetly puzzeld by the section Fuel mix disclosure and its table and pie-chart diagram. The only cited reference in that section is a dead link.

The chart/table displays the energy consumption by source as follows:

• Fossil 42.2%
• Hydroelectricity 35.8%
• Nuclear power 21.5%

I compared those figures to IEA's website for Norway's electricity production in 2010

My conclusion: the textual information, the wiki-table and the pie chart in section Fuel mix disclosure do not make sense, as

• Norway has no nuclear plant
• Energy Import/Export is about 10% of overall production
• Even assuming that all imported electricity is nuclear energy and greenwashed into renewable by pumped hydro, there is no way that this accounts for 21.5% of the overall energy consumption.

Other observation: table Electricity per person and by power source is a bit complicated. A pie chart diagram, excactly as it's done in the section mentioned above, could help a lot to clarify the split-up by source. This would also balance the weight of the different section. As for now, section Fuel mix disclosure completely steals the show due to is much better presentation by using a simple table and chart.

I'll will now add a confusing-section-template and mark the only mentioned reference as a dead link. Rfassbind (talk) 17:53, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Totally agree that the info presented is contradictory. Did a little digging; according to official figures from 2015 released by the SSB (Statistisk Sentralbyrå, the Central Bureau of Statistics for Norway), the total production of electricity was 13,128 GWh of which 12,657 GWh (96.4%) was generated by hydro power with the remainder being 268 GWh (2.0%) from thermal (which they indicate as being from coal plants on the distant island of Svalbard) and 203 GWh (1.5%) from wind. When looking at sources it's important to keep in mind that "energy" and "electricity" are not the same thing; for example, fossil fuels burned in cars are part of consumed "energy" but will not be included in the "electricity" figures, therefore one can expect a much higher propotion of fossil fuels in the "energy balance" than the "electricity sector".

To me, the only way the fuel mix graph makes sense is if it includes natural gas that is exported instead of burned for electricity in Norway. However, such a graph is very misleading because Norway itself is not using that natural gas to generate electricity. Maybe that should be included on "Energy in Norway" and not here. 50.202.174.2 (talk) 17:46, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

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Not 4% fossil

The infobox currently says that 4% of the electricity generation is fossil. Looking at the statistics for electricity production, we see that that number corresponds to the fraction of electricity from cogeneration. But in Norway cogeneration plants usually burn garbage, not fossil fuels. I'd like to correct the number to the <1% made up by actual fossil fuel plants (the Mongestad gas power plant). However, some small fraction of the garbage that is burnt could have fossil origin (plastic bags, for example), so I'm not sure that would be correct either. Still, 99% renewable electricity production is much more accurate than the current 96%. Amaurea (talk) 20:08, 7 September 2016 (UTC)