Multiuser calls cannot be encrypted?

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there is a rumor that multiuser calls cannot be encrypted. https://www.reddit.com/r/riotim/comments/cht2me/are_calls_via_riot_end_to_end_encrypted/

I could not locate a good source for this Disoff (talk) 23:44, 10 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Encrypted by default

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@134.100.186.60:, afaik from the linked source, https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/6779, riot still seems unencrypted by default. However, tot feel free to provide a newer/better source! Ancecdotally, from playing around with riot on my device, the rooms i made were not encrypted by default.

I just found out i cannot ping an unregisterd user, taking talk to their talk pg! --Disoff (talk) 01:14, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Italic textReply

Private conversations (i.e. not public chatrooms) are encrypted by default since May 6th 2020: https://blog.riot.im/e2e-encryption-by-default-cross-signing-is-here/#professionally-designed-ui-ux-for-e2ee Marviiin (talk) 10:00, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

No email or phone number required

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Is it appropriate to find a source and mention this in this article? Many competing services, like whatsapp require one/both of email/phone. --Disoff (talk) 23:01, 12 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

A phone number or email is required depending on the serve--Hiveir (talk) 18:53, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Element or Element.io?

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Is the client software Element or Element.io? The official site speaks of Element, this article speaks of Element.io. Likewise, the same could've been said about its former name: Riot or Riot.im.

It seems New Vector is still the company behind it, despite announcements. And Element is more than the client? The citations given are contradicting each other. 84.250.17.211 (talk) 14:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

The client software is Element. The legal name of the company who builds Element is New Vector Ltd, but is now trading as Element (and will be renamed in future). Riot's name was originally Riot but then renamed as Riot.im to disambiguate from Riot Games. Element however is just called Element. Marviiin (talk) 10:01, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Special:Diff/967828661

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I also removed the DMM reference, because it's a guest post, an opinion of someone. DeathMetalMods itself doesn't have an article on English and German Wikipedias. It is difficult to make any judgement other than the author (Lurz) to conclusively recommend Riot, with criticisms. Finally, the aspect of looking for federation is not specific to Riot (the article subject). 84.250.17.211 (talk) 15:29, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Disruptive use

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PinkNews article: [1]. I didn't want to place undue WP:WEIGHT in the article, the mention of Riot is also passing. I looked at Discord (software)#Disruptive use as an example. 84.250.17.211 (talk) 18:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

I think it could be mentioned on the main article that a right wing group has received some notability for using element--Hiveir (talk) 18:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Golem.de reception

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While the following is probably no longer the case, I wrote this for the "Reception" section but didn't publish it in the article due to my feeling of its inclusion being undue weight. I couldn't find a good reference to say it to be something else today.

In 2017, German computer magazine Golem.de called Riot (and Matrix server) as "mature" and "feature-rich", while criticizing its key authentication at the time to be "anything but user-friendly" for many communicatees with multiple devices each. A co-founder of the project, Matthew Hodgson, assured the key verification process was a "placeholder" solution to work on.[1]

84.250.17.211 (talk) 18:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "Echtzeitkommunikation ausprobiert: Willkommen in der Matrix". Golem.de (in German). Retrieved 2018-11-04.

Requested move 15 July 2020

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. (non-admin closure) Dexxor (talk) 10:40, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply



Element.ioElement (software) – I believe "Element" to be the correct name. Formerly, this article was Riot.im. @Koavf moved it to Element.io today following the old article name, although all prior references in the article also called the software as "Riot" (not as Riot.im) – I've fixed this in the article body, to match the citations referenced. Likewise, what little primary sources and the official website say, they say "Element" (not "Element.io"). The proposed target's naming convention is similar to Discord (software). As an unregistered user, I'm unable to perform this move myself. 84.250.17.211 (talk) 18:46, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

This is a contested technical request (permalink). —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 21:22, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

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New Vector Limited location

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New Vector Limited is located in UK and france - https://element.io/careers and https://matrix.org/legal/terms-and-conditions --Hiveir (talk) 18:55, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

suggestion: pls merge Element (software) and Matrix (protocol)

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I would like to suggest to merge Element (software) and Matrix (protocol). Yes, in theory software and protocol are separate issues, but anyway: these two articles are too close, but not quite the same, but for deliberate reasons, and it would be nice to keep the details in just one place. XYZ2023 (talk) 08:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply