Talk:Elgato/Archives/2015

Draft

I've taken a shot at an over-hauled draft at User:CorporateM/Elgato that I believe is a substantial improvement over the current page (less original research, more sources, more current information, more images donated to Commons, etc.). Because I have a COI/financial connection/affiliation with Elgato, to avoid the appearance of impropriety, I'm sharing the draft here hoping disinterested editors will consider my work and validate whether it is appropriate for Wikipedia/useful to readers.

I found that the company, Elgato, was not remotely notable, whereas its products were (but not notable enough for dedicated articles). So I wrote the draft as a "brand of products". Best I could come up with in this case. CorporateM (Talk) 20:58, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

I have imported your draft: good job! Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 21:30, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Elgato/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Wizardman (talk · contribs) 02:31, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll give reviewing this a shot. First thing I noticed on a skim is that the lead definitely needs expansion, since right now it hardly mentions anything in the article. Wizardman 02:31, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks @Wizardman:. I knew the Lead was very short when I nominated it, but also felt it contained a good summary, since much of the article is regarding version-history that I was kinda iffy about putting in the Lead. Eager to see the results of your first read-through. I'll also have to update the page a bit before it can pass, as some new sources have emerged over the last 3-4 months. CorporateM (Talk) 18:59, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Here are the issues I found:

• In regards to the lead, I can understand not wanting to throw a bunch of version history stuff in there. However, adding little things, such as the device introduction in 2002 and a bit more detail on what they have, would go a long way. Namely, maybe note a bit on what the products do in the lead. I figured it out from reading, but it took a bit longer to figure out than I would have liked.

How about this?

New Lead

Elgato is a brand of consumer technology products. The manufacturer, also called Elgato, was founded in 1992 by Markus Fest and is headquartered in Munich, Germany. Elgato is best-known for a line of video-recording products called EyeTV, which records video from over-the-air antenna's, satellite TV, or mobile devices. The first EyeTV product was introduced in November 2002. More recently, it introduced a line of "smart" products, such as a key fab that track's the user's distance from their car or purse and provides notifications to help them find it. In 2014 it introduced a home monitoring system called Eve, which provides alerts to users regarding things like air pressure, temperature and water use, in their home. Elgato also developed light bulbs that can respond to programming on a mobile device and respond to commands over Bluetooth and it produces two thunderbolt products: a dock for macbooks and an external hard drive.

• For that matter, " The manufacturer was founded in 1992 by Markus Fest and is headquartered in Munich, Germany.[1]" This is in the lead but nowhere else. What happened between 1992 and 2002?
• "and an easy, in-expensive way" inexpensive's just one word.

 Done CorporateM (Talk) 00:43, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

• I can double-check with an image expert, but imo File:Elgato logo.png is public domain as a simple text logo; see Template:PD-logo.

 Done CorporateM (Talk) 00:53, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

• My main irk with the article is that, while good, it feels more about the various products rather than about the company itself; I didn't really get a feel of the company outside of the products. If the sources you noted to add have more on that, then that would be very beneficial.

This is correct and it is a bit odd in that regard. This is a page about a suite of products, not a company page. Note I used the "brand" infobox and in the lead said it was a "brand of consumer products." This is because the company itself is not notable, but many of its products are. One could reasonably argue that this page should be eliminated and instead we should have product pages on EyeTV and Elgato Smart for example, but many of those would just be stubs. So I've consolidated them here on a page about a suite of products. CorporateM (Talk) 00:53, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll put the article on hold and will do another read-through once the above is addressed and once you add the new sources. Wizardman 00:00, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

New lead looks good, if you could add that. Wizardman 00:37, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

i gave this a second read through and have no further issues, so i'll go ahead and pass this. Wizardman 04:35, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Why did they exit the North American market?

At https://www.elgato.com/en/eyetv#desktop, they currently sell plenty of DTT, DVB-T, and DVB-S/S2 tuners, but no ATSC tuners (in other words, they no longer sell products that can be used in North America). Can anyone explain why? 75.163.204.203 (talk) 06:48, 28 June 2015 (UTC)