Talk:Elisabeth Sladen/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 05:36, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

I'll do this review.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:36, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

• Please resolve the issues in the external links tool to the right.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:18, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

WP:LEAD

• The LEAD is curiously brief for a WP:GA.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:14, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
• Please make sure the entire article is summarized in the LEAD. If possible say something about each section.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:14, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

• I am Quickfailing this because the majority of the problems with Talk:Elisabeth Sladen/GA1 remain unresolved.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:21, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
  • I was asked by Ritchie333 to reconsider keeping this open. The WP:ICs are in terrible shape. There are over 30 that are sourced to IMDb.com, which is not considered a WP:RS (This was also pointed out in /GA1). I don't know how many other sources are non-reliable because dozens more omit the source entirely. All ICs should include either a publisher or a source (journal, magazine, newpaper, etc.) and if possible an author. I believe that almost all the ICs will need further work. This is not a modest improvement. It will take a lot of effort. I am not going to look any further at this article. The FAIL stands. Please resubmit at WP:GAC when the article is closer to the WP:WIAGA standard.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:59, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

To be clear, I requested the review be re-opened on the assumption that the lead was the only thing wrong with it. I have fixed the lead (I would have done this anyway), but I agree the IMDB cites are a more serious issue. In fact, the references also include blatant self-published sources and cites to Amazon and YouTube, both of which are problematic at the best of times. I would recommend somebody grab a copy of her autobiography and replace all unreliable sources with that, using newspaper archive hits for the rest, before resubmitting to GAN. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC)