Talk:Elizabeth (film)/Archive 1

Historical Inaccuracies?

Perhaps some discussion of how historically accurate this film is, particularly with The Golden Age coming out. - Matthew238 05:48, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, William Cecil is portrayed as a fussy, interfering old man - but Elizabeth regarded him as her rock. He was the one who came up with the phrase, "What! All this for a song?" when he protested against the award of £100 to Edmund Spenser for his presentation of the Faerie Queene at court - ever since, underpaid arty twerps have chosen to ridicule him. And did the film show Mary Queen of Scots being assassinated? I thought the film was accurate in showing that she was stitched up by Francis Walsingham and put to death by law (although the two queens never met). I expect the sequel to show the myth of how Elizabeth prevailed over the forces of Spanish evil, rather than the fact that she ended up a deeply conflicted person who was often disregarded by the people who really disposed of power in protestant England. And will there be anything about Ireland? Howl, howl!--Shtove 22:03, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether you watched the film poorly, or if you are mistaken about Elizabethan history, but Mary Queen of Scots never appears in the film. I believe that she was not, in fact, in the British Isles during the years depicted. Uucp 23:07, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I too was confused about the presence of Mary Queen of Scots who, if i'm not mistaken, was assassinated by Walsingham. In the film, she had the trademark brown wig covering up her grey hair, whilst more obviously... she was french. Can anyone shed some light on this? Particularly as Samantha Morton is playing Mary in the sequel 'The Golden Age'. Did Mary rise from the dead..? Bobbyfletch85 16:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

It is not Mary Stewart we see assasinated in the film but Mary of Guise, her mother! Even so, the assasination by Walshingham is again inaccurate.

• Have you ever thought of another possible frame connection in fiction? The first relation between film and history is the so called historicity._and there is another connection in lining the literary one. And this film Elizabeth acts on parallel

literary sources. The german dramatic writer of Mary Stuart,F.Schiller flows in the script and therefore the real historic line vanishes.[ Stefan Zweig is a later one ] I myself recognized that and I think it#s right to do this because it's trading written and told about the real reign. The time axes is somehow splittered, but in reasonable tension fields. Who follows whom? and changes the position! The figure Cate Blanchett played is questioning her duty and so she tells something about female souveranity in a monarchy. The director choses democratic frames. So we see something out of today, not modestly censored about a long dead queen.--88.77.196.208 (talk) 10:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

"In the film, Dudley's wife dies when she wears one of Elizabeth's dresses poisoned"

in the film it's not the Dudley's wife who wears the poisoned dress. --151.28.245.227 (talk) 04:24, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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Clive Owen

Clive Owen is listed as starring in this film, but he was only in Elizabeth: The Golden Age. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.184.214.97 (talk) 19:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Sexuality Question

I saw that it was rated "R" for violence and sexuality. Elizabeth (Blanchett) didn't have sex in the movie did she? Or else it would be historically inaccurate. (i havent seen the movie myself but i'm thinking of it) thanks. 71.49.92.224 (talk) 23:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

The Duke of Norfolk is seen having sex.--Johnbull (talk) 15:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

This page needs fixing badly

Is it me or is the plot section not really a plot synopsis, but rather part-plot/part-someone's-hack-job-at-analysing-the-film? The plot section should entail the plot of the film and not delve into critique - definitely does not suit encyclopedic format. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.153.74 (talk) 12:55, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Dramatic License

Many of the statements regarding the film’s dramatic license are poorly researched. The author of this page doesn’t acknowledge the conflicting historical evidence regarding certain facts and relationships. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iris Kirby (talk • contribs) 12:17, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Even were this section completely accurate, and copiously historically referenced -- which it is not -- it would all be a massive exercise in inappropriate synthesis. What it would need would be reliable sources making such observations in the context of this film. 84.203.40.54 (talk) 23:46, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

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