Talk:Elizabeth Eden

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Generalrelative in topic The issue of original names

This isn't all that notable-shouldn't this be merged with the article on the film?

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What is the value of this as being separate? HammerFilmFan (talk) 20:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFanReply

The person’s birth name is a verifiable fact but is not included. Why not? 2600:1700:F220:B0E0:5170:AF99:8870:454B (talk) 04:52, 10 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

The issue of original names

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I do not care that transgendered persons call their original birth names "dead name", Wikipedia has an issue as a standard rule of stating people's original name in an article named after the name under which they became notorious/famous.

If this person had been named Elizabeth Debbie at birth, there would have not been a need for the sex reassignment surgery. So what is the original name of this person, in line with all other people who had a different birth name from the name most of us know them under (eg Sun Yat-sen etc)?

Not to mention, is it even possible to deadname a dead person? Since they’re no longer alive, it’s not like they would be able to care what name someone else calls them anymore. Consider that WP:BLP policies only apply to the living, too. 2604:2D80:6984:3800:0:0:0:BCC8 (talk) 04:33, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
See WP:DEADNAME for our guideline on this matter: For deceased transgender or non-binary persons, their birth name or former name (professional name, stage name, or pseudonym) should be included in the lead sentence of their main biographical article only if the name is documented in multiple high quality reliable and secondary sources containing non-trivial coverage of the person. In this case such sources exist so the deadname stays. Generalrelative (talk) 06:13, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply