Talk:Elizabeth Mynatt

Birthday

Is the correct birthday December 7 or July 12? The article reports both. MaxVeers (talk) 00:55, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

It's July 12 and someone appears to have already fixed the article. Svoida (talk) 04:16, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Untrue statements by 72.74.248.236/Now known as user "No Oath"

To this anonymous user - i see that you keep adding content that is inflammatory and just untrue. In your revisions you even decided it was okay to change the title of news article to fit your narrative. What is the purpose of this? If you could please refrain from changing this article from the objective tone, it would be appreciated. Of course, if you have verified sources to back up your claims, then I would welcome the purposed changes to persist. Jesspater (talk) 12:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

@No_Oath I have asked for a third opinion on this article to address the difference in opinion related to the objectivity of edits to the career section of this article. Jesspater (talk) 01:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Career

@No_OathI think it would be good to try to better understand the differences in opinion we are having on the subjectivity of this section of the page. Without citations about the process, maybe there should be an agreement that all of the context beyond the code itself should be removed?

I have looked for authentication for your additions and can't find anything. I would like to make this as civil as possible.

The oath is found here: https://www.khoury.northeastern.edu/about/mission-and-vision/ The article about purposing it does not mention compulsion: https://www.khoury.northeastern.edu/dean-mynatt-proposes-oath-for-computer-scientists-at-khoury-college-graduation/

I appreciate that we all have differences of opinions. However, if something can't be verified, I don't think it should be presented as factual. Jesspater (talk) 16:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

There is no spoken or published or understood opt-out policy. Therefor the Dean is essentially using peer pressure (and the heightened feelings at graduation with parents often present) to enforce. The administration and Ms. Mynatt have been asked repeated in formal letters and Khoury College forums to elaborate and have declined to do so. Also they have declined to name an author or a formal process for consensus. The articles referenced by you above, do not answer these questions. Verify that there is an author, formal process and opt-out policy and I will acquiesce. Ms. Mynatt is supposed to be a scholar and academic. Why won't she and the college just do the proper work to build consensus? Do Dean's possess unilateral power over students? Is this not an abuse?! No Oath (talk) 17:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! I think that there are a quite a few assumptions in your response. My concern is the objectivity of the section. My suggestion is to remove all text after the statement of the oath existing to make this section focused and as objective as possible. It seems based on your response that there is a personal issue you have with Dean Mynatt and this oath that might be more appropriately handled offline. Jesspater (talk) 12:49, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

I also think that truncating the career article to the existence of the Oath without additional commentary would serve 2 critical purposes. 1) it feels like a respectable compromise and 2) is in line with Wikipedia's editing policy Wikipedia:Editing policy Jesspater (talk) 13:04, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

In addition, their response to legitimate enquiries has been to censor those enquiries. Not very scholarly. No Oath (talk) 17:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)