Talk:Emigration

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is there any thing on WWI migration

Legal aspects of emigration

I was hoping to find here some mention of the legal implications of emigration in various countries - e.g. effects on citizenship, taxation, property. Common restrictions on emigration (exit visas come to mind), and unofficial emigration (an extended holiday that never ends).

Merging with Immigration

• Do not merge 'emigration' with 'immigration.' Both are different entities, possessing various unique characteristics that serve each in their own capacity, making them distinctly separate. And such they should remain, categorically speaking.

yeah i totally agree with #2

• Do not merge. Although from an individualist perspective, the content would be mostly the same (an immigrant is an emigrant), from a sociological perspective, the two are very different. If we wish to focus on the sociological, economic, and other implications of mass emmigration out of a particular country, such a discussion would be out of place in an article on immigration. Mass exodus from a country can have distinct societal effects that are very different from mass immigration into another.DavidGC 00:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

• Result: Do not merge. Merge has been proposed for over one month. With no votes to merge, closing vote and removing template. --DavidGC 06:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Do not merge Emigration is a different entity from Immigration (wotansuomi)

I just posted a suggestion on the "Immigraton" discussion section to merge with "Emigration," but I'm interested to hear your reasons that the two should remain separate. You note that they're sociologically very different, but wouldn't you say that they are still inseparable? The sociological causes of each must surely be related:

• If you leave your native land for e.g. religious freedom, you would say that you are emigrating because your land is too religiously restrictive, and therefore you're immigrating to a new land because it is more religiously tolerant.

i.e., you wouldn't leave your religiously restrictive country for a new, equally restrictive one, if that was your motivation to leave. Zujua (talk) 20:58, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Emigration by country

Often articles dealing with migrants deal with their countries of destination, e.g. Italian-Americans. We seem to have few articles such as Polish emigration. Though I lack the requisite knowledge to write such an article, I'd be more than happy to copyedit it ;) --Zantastik talk 20:12, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

i wonder if there are any polish people left in poland. they seem to be all over. u see pl licence plates in many places.

GREAT IDEA (wotansuomi)

What fool put "lower taxes" in one of the "pull factors". Thats just stupid and bent. Im removing it. Spelaringenroll (talk) 11:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Your comment suggests that you need to re-read WP:NPA. Dicklyon (talk) 04:10, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Added better and poor living conditions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PJStarsYTvids08 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Have its own category?

I think the article should be in Category:Emigration (which at present redirects) along with the emigrants (in the same way as is done with immigration and immigrants). Robin Patterson (talk) 14:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Unferencednes

I removed the "unreferenced" template since there are some references. If there are concerns about specific statements being unreferenced, please annotate them specifically. Daf (talk) 06:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

emigrants vs expatriates

Please see Talk:Expatriate#Expatriates_versus_Emigrants and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland#emigrants_vs_expatriates (where I explain why Category:Emigrants should become a subcategory to Category:Expatriates). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:26, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Emigrant Vs Immigrant

An immigrant is someone who has arrived from a foreign country, and has not yet become a citizen. An emigrant is someone who is on his way to another country, but has not yet arrived. In other words, someone in the method of travelling to another country; whereas an immigrant is a new arrival. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.195.69.24 (talk) 14:10, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

From Italy

According to the 1950 film Path of Hope, emigration from Italy is illegal in the late 1940s.
Varlaam (talk) 23:41, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

that's fiction. Historians don't mention any such illegality. Rjensen (talk) 04:23, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

That film is neo-realist, and the illegality of what the characters are doing is the driving force behind the plot.

It would be like watching Bicycle Thieves and then having someone tell you that stealing a bicycle is legal, with no consequences.

I wrote the IMDb's plot summary a decade ago, which has now been "borrowed" for our article here. (I will authorize that some day when I have nothing else to do.)

The phrase the film uses is "illegal emigration". As I recall, the film does not clarify that, presumably because the Italian viewer is already familiar with the concept. Perhaps the characters failed to buy the appropriate licence.

But the film is all about their fear of betrayal, and the threat of being returned to Sicily to face punishment for their crime of trying to get to France.

It is a harrowing drama; it is hard to accept it is predicated on a fiction.

Varlaam (talk) 13:36, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Notable Instances of Emigration?

I am wondering if we should create a new section in the article dealing with notable examples of Emigration, such as those following the Irish Potato Famine or the more recent emigration of Mexicans into the United States. As the article stands at the moment, there is only a section discussing countries that have actively prohibited their citizens from emigrating. I would appreciate some input on this. --Septagons (talk) 18:11, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Expat vs Expatriation

Took "Expatriation" right out. While Black's Law Dictionary might be right, Expatriate is a clear counter-example in terms of actual usage. Snori (talk)

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"Emmmigration" listed at Redirects for discussion

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"Hence one might emigrate from one's native country to immigrate to another country. "

Might? Surely emigrating from somewhere requires that you are also immigrating to somewhere. Is this just badly worded, or am I missing something? --Eldomtom2 (talk) 12:55, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

I fixed this to hopefully make it more clear in the introduction paragraph. Re-worded for clarity. --Grelyelo (talk) 19:14, 29 December 2021 (UTC)