Talk:Emil von Reznicek
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editWhy is it only the English and Japanese Wikipedie don't use the hacek ("Rezniček") for this fellow's name? Volunteer Sibelius Salesman 19:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
There is not really a good reason to use it; Reznicek didn't use it himself and even though he was of Czech ancestry his world was really German - a notable contrast with, for instance, Dvořak. Ilja Nieuwland
- Ah yes, good point! Thanks. Volunteer Sibelius Salesman 18:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Symphony no. 1
editD major 1901 or D minor 1903? Sources seem to disagree but point toward the latter?... Schissel | Sound the Note! 04:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Eric, the text accompanying the cpo disc makes it a D minor 1902, to further confuse matters. --Ilja.nieuwland (talk) 18:09, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Diacritics in his name
editIt seems this was moved exactly a year ago, without discussion, under an edit summary that asserted "correct format".
I'd gladly accept that if (a) the composer actually spelt his name with the diacritics, and (b) I could find any external references that support it.
Well, guess what. There ain't any, that I can find. As discussed above, Reznicek lived in Austria and did not use the diacritics when he spelt his own name. That, as far as I am concerned, is the end of the matter. We spell Sergei Rachmaninoff that way (and not Rachmaninov or Rakhmaninoff/ov or anything else) because he spelt his own name that way in the West. That is the ultimate authority. End of story. We do not go back and respell someone's name according to our own personal (and in this case totally unsupported by references) theories about how we think they should be spelt.
This needs to be moved back to Emil von Reznicek asap, but I'll wait for comments. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 22:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
- I agree. Unfortunately, the move will require administrative assistance via WP:RM. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:09, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Requested move
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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 11:26, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Emil von Řezníček → Emil von Reznicek – He spelt his own name without diacritics, and it is almost never seen written with diacritics. Please see discussion above. Jack of Oz [Talk] 10:00, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Support the Jan12 move looks like a good faith mistake by someone who assumed this was a Czech-born Řezníček, however Germany and Austria have many wholly German/Austrian people of slavic ancestry, and the composer, the son of Feldmarschall-Leutnant Joseph Freiherr von Reznicek, was one of them. This is the reverse case from the current misguided proposal for wikipedia's first ASCII-ized Argentine citizen at Talk:Manu Ginóbili. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:40, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Support per nom and User:In ictu oculi. Reznicek was not born in Bohemia or Moravia and does not appear to have a strong connexion with them (except for his 7 years in Prague) or later with Czechoslovakia where the diacritics in question would be used. As an aside, New Grove (1980), which loves diacritics, uses Rezniček and German Wikipedia reads "Reznicek (auch: Rezniček)". — AjaxSmack 04:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
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Editors, please address unref'd material
editSome portions are properly cited, but there is a significant amount left to do. Thanks. 104.169.31.99 (talk) 09:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)