Talk:Emilia Plater/GA1

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Piotrus in topic GA Review

GA Review

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Reviewer: Tomobe03 (talk · contribs) 09:42, 8 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

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1. Well-written:
  1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. OK
  1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. All clear now
2. Verifiable with no original research:
  2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
  2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
  2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
  3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
  3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. No edit wars
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. All clear
  6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. Criterion met
  7. Overall assessment. Pass

MOS:

  • The lead should be a bit longer - perhaps another paragraph to summarize all information presented in the article per WP:LEAD.
  • There are duplicate links in the article which need be removed per WP:OVERLINK. Those are: Westphalia, Daugavpils, Lithuania, Adam Mickiewicz and Šiauliai.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:43, 9 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Images:

Referencing:

  • Sentence In 1959, she was made the name-sake of a ship, the MS Emilia Plater. is not supported by any references. Please provide one.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:52, 9 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

I expect to add further comments once the missing reference is added.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:42, 9 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

All done (but please double check images to make sure this is what you meant), thanks for the comments. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:40, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Prose review:

MOS:

Additional referencing note:

There appear to be no other GACR related issues with the article right now.--Tomobe03 (talk) 10:44, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Everything seems to be resolved by now, except the WP:NCGN issue which I have to check with someone else before proceeding. Shouldn't take long.--Tomobe03 (talk) 08:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Request for a second opinion

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A request for second opinion has been made regarding an issue raised by this review. Namely, I would like to have a second opinion on proper application of MOS, specifically WP:NCGN policy in terms of toponyms contained in the prose text provided in Lithuanian and in Polish at the same time.--Tomobe03 (talk) 08:31, 13 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sure. Quoting from NCGN: "In some cases, a compromise is reached between editors to avoid giving the impression of support for a particular national point of view." On Polish-Lithuanian subjects, it is customary to mention both names in some context, like in the biographies of Polish people who lived in Lithuania. This custom is an extension of Talk:Gdansk/Vote: "For Gdansk and other locations that share a history between Germany and Poland, the first reference of one name in an article should also include a reference to other names, e.g. Danzig (now Gdańsk, Poland) or Gdańsk (Danzig). An English language reference that primarily uses this name should be provided on the talk page if a dispute arises." (just replace German with Lithuanian...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:03, 13 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Just for the record, I'm leaning towards the solution proposed by Piotrus, but this is just to be on the safe side.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
I did some more research on this. The passage you presented as "Quoting from NCGN" simply is not in the NCGN. Please recheck for any changes to policies before offering such a "quote" next time around. However, there is a special part of MOS regulating this specific situation: WP:MOSPOL, therefore the geographic names usage is MOS-compliant except in case of:
  • Prastavoniai - Lithuanian term should be used first, Polish second.
All other GNs seem fine.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:24, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Reordered that myself per WP:MOSPOL. Hope you don't mind.
Np, but the passage I quote is there in the Wikipedia:NCGN#Multiple_local_names section? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:36, 15 May 2013 (UTC)Reply