Talk:Encino, Los Angeles

Inofficial?

Unofficial district? I'm pretty sure its official. -- Eric 23:39, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The degree to which L.A. city neighborhoods are officialy recognized is a major topic in its own right. But it is sufficient for this article to say, as is usual for similar areas, that it is a neighborhood of Los Angeles, and leave the "official/unofficial"-part out of the article. -Willmcw 00:49, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

More demographic info?

Encino is known for being an overwhelmingly white, upper-middle or upper-class neighborhood (north and south of Ventura, respectively). Is it heavily Jewish like Sherman Oaks and Studio City, as well? Is there anywhere I could go to find this out--the L.A. Almanac, maybe? --Slightlyslack 02:18, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

As a matter of fact, Encino has a large Jewish community but I cannot be sure what is the percentage of Encino residents who are practicing Judaism or self-classify themselves Jewish. Encino within the city of L.A. with Jewish majority sections does extend from Woodland Hills, Los Angeles to Reseda, Los Angeles to Toluca Lake, Los Angeles ranked in the top ten Jewish communities in California, including the Sou-Cal suburbs of Altadena, Calabasas, La Crescenta, Oak Park and West Hollywood. Other ethnic groups known to be numerous in Encino are Arab, Armenian, Iranian, Italian, Russian and Turkish. I suppose the traditional White Anglo Saxon Protestant ethno-nationalities of English, Irish and German are well-represented, but the Jewish population is multinational with Russians and Polish at the top. + 71.102.12.55 (talk) 08:12, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Richard Pryor's death

People are taken to Encino hospital and die there every day. Given the high concentration of notable show business figures in the area, some of them will die there. We can't list them all. It's beyond trivial. Crunch 14:12, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree. GeorgeLouis (talk) 00:33, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Subneighborhood:Amestoy Estates

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/valley/la-re-guide12nov12,1,51938.story?coll=la-editions-valley California | Local News : San Fernando Valley NEIGHBORLY ADVICE A posh spot north of the boulevard jengod 21:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

February 23, 2007 edit

Someone deleted John Wooden, who lives in Encino and the library I've been to. Two entries were questionable - The one with a "Ryan" in it and Tom Petty. I deleted those but someone please check my work. Ronbo76 04:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I deleted "Averell Byrd" international man of douchebaggery. Moomoo2u —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.229.198 (talk) 04:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

In popular culture

That section is just a jumble of celebrity tidbits. It would also be interesting to note how Encino was displayed in the 1992 movie "Encino Man". Thanks, Maikel (talk) 09:07, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Roger Waters' song "5:01 A.M. (The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking)" refers to "A housewife from Encino". Source https://genius.com/Roger-waters-5-01-am-the-pros-and-cons-of-hitch-hiking-lyrics

Encino Valley?

Is there something called Encino Valley there? In the article it says Encino is in the San Fernando Valley. In a German Wikipedia article it says that someone grew up in Encino Valley. Is that nonsense? Or is the part of San Fernando Valley where Encino is located sometimes called Encino Valley? Please someone clarify!--Sylvia Anna (talk) 16:42, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Encino is in the San Fernando Valley, and yes, "Encino Valley" is nonsense. There are no geographical features that would make the modern district or the historical rancho a separate valley. Encino is a squarish plot smack in the middle of the southern side of the San Fernando valley ~ Ningauble (talk) 23:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

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unsourced notables

Notable for what? Born there, living there - for what?

The following are individuals who were in the "notable residents" section. They need citations indicating they live (or lived) in Encino.

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Abigail Spencer Al Jolson had a mansion on Louise Avenue Mickey Rooney owned a Spanish style Ranch House here Nick Turturro and his son Nick, Jr., play at Encino Little League Songwriter Charles Fox (Killing Me Softly with His Song) lives in Encino Dick Van Dyke in the 1960s Burt Ward Johnny Carson& his family lived on Hayvenhurst Ave., in the 1950s Ron Howard, director, former actor on TV's Happy Days Lyle Waggoner Tim Conway Ray Romano Edward Everett Horton lived where the westbound Ventura (101) Freeway proceeds after Balboa Blvd. Richard Pryor lived off Adlon Dr. Bud Abbott Richard Crenna Dennis Weaver Bobby Troup & his wife Julie London Steve Allen Jack Webb Ice Cube aka O'Shea Jackson Robert Conrad Lived on Petit Avenue. Efrem Zimbalist Jr Lived on Magnolia Blvd. Cherie Currie Vocalist of the Runaways Tom Breneman Radio personality and mayor of Encino Bobby Sherman Cesare Danova - Actor Richard Carlson - Actor/director - Noted for many 50's SCI-FI movies Foster Brooks Dave Koz Kevin James Edgar Rice Burroughs Charmian Carr Laura Dern Dave Grohl Brynn Hartman Phil Hartman The Jackson Family have lived on Hayvenhurst Ave since 1971. Erin Murphy Daniel Pearl Selena Gomez Steve Vai Roger Williams - pianist

Thanks, tedder (talk) 23:42, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

The above section has now been sourced. GeorgeLouis (talk) 23:10, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Alphabetizing Notable People Section

I wondered why this section is alphabetized by the first name of each person, rather than the stand practice of alphabetizing by a person's last name? I did not want to change it because I was unclear why it was done this way, and I wondered if there was a Wikipedia guideline addressing this? Thanks!--Fraulein451 (talk) 23:18, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

The list has now been alphabetized by last name. GeorgeLouis (talk) 23:08, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Lead does not follow WP:Lede.

The lead should sum up what is in the article and not include stuff that isn't there. GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:36, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

I will be tackling this soon unless somebody else wants to do it. GeorgeLouis (talk) 23:09, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Articles about Encino public elementary schools

Not sure if these have information important enough to put on Wikipedia, but...

• Olivo, Antonio. "ENCINO : Students Take Rocket Design to Higher Plane." Los Angeles Times. June 23, 1995.
• Byrnes, Susan. "ENCINO : Bank's $5,000 to Aid School's Computers." Los Angeles Times. April 7, 1994.

WhisperToMe (talk) 15:08, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Sepulveda Basin Recreation Area

The article states that this is in Encino, but the reality is more complicated. As of the 2007 redrawing of the boundaries of Lake Balboa, everything east of Burbank Blvd. and north of the Los Angeles River is now in Lake Balboa. That leaves the Balboa and Hjelte sports centers, the Encino and Balboa golf courses, and the Sepulveda Basin Sports Complex in Encino, as well as the office and mailing address (but not the Sepulveda Basin Recreation Area sign, which is across the street in Lake Balboa). The Anthony Beilenson park/Lake Balboa, Woodley Lakes Golf Course, and Woodley Park, including the cricket and model airplane fields, are all in Lake Balboa. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:14, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

The situation is indeed confused. Current maps of these neighborhoods on the official website of the City of Los Angeles Department of Neighborhood Empowerment, both prepared in 2013, are themselves inconsistent. Encino-Neighborhood-Council-Map clearly shows shows the recreation area is in Encino, and Lake-Balboa-Neighborhood-Council-Map shows just as clearly that it is in Lake Balboa. Go figure!

As a practical matter, I think the L A Times had it about right in this map, treating the Sepulveda Basin as a separate, unpopulated area in between the surrounding neighborhoods. ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:50, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

The discrepancies should be noted in the article, with the sources. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:56, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Searching for sources to explain the overlap, I found this in a report prepared the same year as the above linked council maps:

The Basin is of particular interest not only because it is located outside of the Lake Balboa neighborhood boundaries, but also because it is the only area that the Lake Balboa NC shares with another Neighborhood Council, the Encino NC. The two NC’s share the Sepulveda Basin due to potential stakeholder interest. It is hoped that this will encourage stakeholder involvement from both of these communities.

— "Lake Balboa Neighborhood Profile", Sarah Chandlee et al., Fall 2013, empowerla.org (City of Los Angeles Department of Neighborhood Empowerment), p. 10.

Note also that http://www.lakebalboanc.org/about-us/boundaries/ (which is out of date because it still includes the Van Nuys airport and areas east of it) draws a distinction between "the Lake Balboa Neighborhood Council boundaries" in blue, and "the area that the Lake Balboa NC shares with Encino NC" in green.

So it appears that the overlap is intentional. For purposes of the city's Neighborhood Councils, the Sepulveda Basin Recreation Area pertains to the interests of stakeholders who live and do business in both Encino and Lake Balboa. ~ Ningauble (talk) 20:57, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

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Ted Greene

Ted Lived and died in Encino. He was one of the greatest and most innovative jazz guitarists. His Chord Chemistry book is still one of the most important jazz guitar texts. 174.247.250.122 (talk) 20:16, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. If you have WP:Reliable sources, you may add his name (with the source). If you don't know how, do the best you can and somebody will come along and fix it up for you. Regards, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:21, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Boundary differences

The boundaries for Encino on Google Maps [1] are different than the 'Mapping LA' sourced ones in the article. Should these differences be noted, and is it possible to do so without breaking copyright?

[If the link breaks in the future for some reason]: Description of current (Dec. 1, 2022) Google Maps boundaries as well as I can: Northern Boundary: Victory Blvd. from Lindsay Ave. to Balboa Road. East of Balboa, the boundary is the L.A River until the I-405. The 405 makes up the eastern boundary from the L.A River in the north to Ventura Blvd. in the south. The boundary goes along Ventura Blvd. west for about one block before it goes south on Firmament Ave. When it intersects with Valley Vista Blvd, it goes east for about a block until it hits Sherman Oaks Ave. It follows it southwest for a bit until it intersects with Sepulveda Blvd, when it starts to follow it SW. It follows it until it intersects with Mulholland Dr. and starts going west along that road. It continues to follow Mulholland west after it turns into a trail. It then follows Caballero Canyon Trail north after its intersection. It eventually cuts east near the trailhead on Reseda Blvd. It travels north between Hilton Head Way on the west and Lake Encino Drive on the east. It continues north to the east of Karen Drive until it hits Lindsay Ave. and follows that north until the origin intersection. BhamBoi (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

arethere any museums or art galleries in ancino

are there any museum 69.123.182.69 (talk) 21:18, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Trivial "In popular culture" listings

Re @WCCasey:'s revert and edit comment, I don't see how simply a passing mention of "Encino" in random cultural artifacts is inherently notable. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of random trivia. The fact that some of the subjects (but not all in the revert) have articles is irrelevant. Are these mentions of Encino themselves notable in any way whatsover? --ZimZalaBim ^talk 15:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't pay much attention to "In pop culture" sections, but it's often fun to see the connections. I didn't find much guidance in WP:N on his kind of content, so notability becomes subjective. Maybe a better question is when does content rise above the level of trivia that should be removed? In What_Wikipedia_is_not, we have "Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information", but what does "indiscriminate" mean in this context?

In general, I feel that removal of linked and/or sourced content needs strong justification, because the first editor thought something was important enough to take the time to edit it in. Where unanimous agreement is not obvious, the Talk page is the place to work toward consensus - before deletion of content. I started a more general discussion about this situation at Wikipedia talk:Notability#Notability of linked content. WCCasey (talk) 04:21, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia, not a fan page. We don't list things just because they are "fun". "Indiscriminate" includes lists of anytime a word happens to appear in a random song lyric or passing mention in a TV show. That's trivia, and should be excluded. If if a mention in pop culture is notable becuase a reliable independent source says so, that's a different thing. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 13:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Respect for other editors (see WP:EQ) asks that proposed deletions of content be discussed here first. I agree that a simple list of pop culture items doesn't tell us much about the real Encino, so maybe a better approach would be some discussion in that section about how Encino is often used as a stand-in for a perceived San Fernando Valley culture (citations needed). Then the listed items become examples of the phenomenon. WCCasey (talk) 16:19, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I honestly don't know where in WP:EQ you find the notion that "proposed deletions of content be discussed here first"; indeed, if you wanted to through guidelines around I'd suggest WP:BB, which is exactly what I did. If you wanted to create a new section with sourced examples of how Encinco is used to depict other places, go for it. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 16:57, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I think it's okay for articles to contain some fun facts. There's no requirement for everything to be as dry and boring as possible.

The usual thing to do is to include significant items and exclude small ones. For example, if there's a popular television show that often shows local landmarks and repeatedly mentions Encino, then that should be included. On the other end of the spectrum, if Encino merely gets mentioned once in an ordinary song, then that should usually be excluded.

Glancing at the list, I'd suggest removing about half of it. (Also, Encino, Los Angeles#Notable people should probably be split to a separate List of people from Encino, Los Angeles page.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

That's largely the logic I applied with this edit, but was reverted. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 18:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I think several of those should be removed. The "recurring location" item and the "several scenes" item might be kept, but I would not keep the brief mentions. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:55, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

The general consensus seems to be that only when "the real Encino" plays a significant role in a movie or other entertainment is that occurence worth mentioning in the "In Pop Culture" section. I'm ok with applying that standard here, but not necessarily as a general rule for all articles. Although "Valley Girl" does use Encino "as a stand-in for a perceived San Fernando Valley culture", the song also mentions other Valley locations. Some editor could add a paragraph to this article (or in another place, such as San Fernando Valley?) about the pop-cultural angle (linking to "Valley Girl", etc.), but I probably won't get around to it. Tubular! WCCasey (talk) 14:20, 25 June 2024 (UTC)