Talk:Endorsements for the 2022 Conservative Party of Canada leadership election

Photos in Endorsement section

Out of fairness, should photos of the candidates all be the same size? It appears to emphasize Lewis and Poilievre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TRJP89 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes, we should try to do so, as much as possible. But the template fills space depending how many photos are included. As such, this will depend how many candidates are running and how many photos we have. For now I have not added Scott Aitchison's house of common's photo, because I expect it will be deleted soon, and also it has not been cropped so the template makes it much larger than the others, also the people in the background are confusing.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 23:28, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Out of a desire to ensure that no wing of the party is given preference, why not replace either Lewis' or Poilievre's image be replace by somebody from the centrist wing of the party like Brown or Charest? TRJP89 (talk) 13:34, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

No. We shouldn’t attempt balance by picking certain candidates to give more prominence. This array of photos is going to continue to change significantly as candidates anounce, we obtain copyright free images of them, and as others become approved. I suspect in a few weeks we will be removing those that fail to become approved. So we should try to keep the images a similar size in the meanttime, but try not to worry too much about it. We should stick to Alphabetical for now.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 17:22, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Since we have had a stable 8 photos for a while, I added a filler photo (the CPC logo) in the middle to even it out. Not sure this is a good plan, but we could try it, if others think it is fine. That said, if the number of photos evens out, it of course would be removed.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 23:20, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Not sure how that CPC logo can be released under a free licence there on Commons. The website says "all rights reserved". Where does it says that logo can be under a CC licence? - Ahunt (talk) 23:44, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

That is a fair question. I cropped the logo that another editor recreated and posted in September 2020. There seems to be quite a few in the wiki-commons. Would think someone would have nominated for deletion by now if there was a problem, but our copyright rules are often beyond me.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 23:55, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

In those CC-licenced ones on Commons, the uploader is claiming that they are the copyright holder, which seems to be not the case. I could see someone making a public domain upload as "text only - does not make the threshold of originality for copyright", but for it to be CC, the party would have to licence it as CC and they have clearly licensed it as "all rights reserved". I think all those logos on Commons are copyright violations. - Ahunt (talk) 00:08, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps, I just look at what is available on the commons and use what is there. Usually, they are pretty fast to remove items that are in violation of the rules. If you think they are you could nominate them for deletion there. I note most of them seem to be derived from this file also uploaded in September 2020 by the same uploader. It notes that a "trademark" may apply but says the text is not original enough for copyright protection to attach.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 00:22, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

I am not a copyright lawyer, but the licensing on that file makes sense to me as it is "PD-text". I think the rest on Commons all just need changing to that licensing. - Ahunt (talk) 00:27, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Reminder on endorsements

Further to the previous reminder on the main page from Paul Erik, editors should remember that guidelines for political endorsements exist at WP:ENDORSE. It is important that all endorsers and endorsements are notable before being added to the list here.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 18:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Having looked over the linked page, I don't believe Kyle Seeback's endorsement of Patrick Brown satisfies the criteria. The source for his endorsement is a Tweet that simply expresses agreement with Brown's firearms policy. It is not articulated as an endorsement. Other MPs have expressed agreement with portions of a candidate's campaign without necessarily endorsing the candidate and are rightly not listed here. While I do believe Seeback is supporting Brown, he has not explicitly said so publicly and we should wait until he does before listing his endorsement. 207.35.15.11 (talk) 20:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

I agree Seeback's tweet is too ambiguous. He used a similar "This / hand emoji" tweet on March 20 so it seems to be shorthand he uses. Lilactree201 (talk) 00:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

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Endorsement map colours

I think it's a little weird how we have colours in the endorsements map that are different from the colours that we provide for the candidates in the infobox / on the main page, my recommendation is using the same colours on the map. Wikipageedittor099 (talk) 23:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

This discussion should happen on the main article's talk page as there has already been significant discussion of the colours there. Of course, the consensus seemed to be to try to use colours from the candidates' own websites, and to avoid blue for any of the candidates. Of course, the maker of the endorsement map has so far used different colours for their own reasons. It may be unwise for us to make final decisions at this stage, because in the next three weeks the race is likely to narrow. Some candidates will drop our or otherwise fail to become approved.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 19:15, 29 March 2022 (UTC)