Talk:Enemy (disambiguation)
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Common parlance says that Peace is a lack of conflict. Peace is more than that; peace is a state where conflicts are resolved in orderly, predictable ways that do not involve harming people. Conflicts are normal, however, and are good, since a world without conflict would be very, very boring. Where enemies are people, there is no peace. Where enemies are injustice, iniquity, disease, and the ideologies themselves (not the holders of them), there can be peace.
"The term is usually used within the greater context of war" -- please cite, or modify the article.
"Enemy is a strong word, evoking associations of hate, violence, battle and war" -- it's possible to disagree with an enemy without hate, and not all battles involve violence.
Turn to disambiguation page?
editThis "article" is a nonsensical ramble. The link to demonization, or possibly some future psychology article on how enemies are constructed, might be interesting; but this is just an extended dictionary definition mixed in with some OR. Would there be any opposition to just turning this into a disambig page? SnowFire 04:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
What the heck is this?! There is an article for Friendship, but nothing for enemies. This needs to be changed. --Yancyfryjr
Don't forget that not every word has to have an article on its own if it is covered better elsewhere. I think that there are other social psychology articles that probably would cover this better.
That said, if you want to take a stab at writing an article, go for it. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Enemy&oldid=86088762 is the revision before I changed it to a disambig page. This version of enemy is pretty awful, IMHO, with lots of OR and a torturously expanded dictionary definition that doesn't go much beyond "enemies are something that opposes you." If you think you can salvage anything from it... SnowFire 23:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, we need this article (with some modifications) back asap. I just made Enemy (disambiguation) where the current disambiguating content belongs. Brz7 20:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Erm. Care to explain why we "need" that article? Wikipedia is not a dictionary (WP:NOT), and I really can't see much to say about the concept of an "enemy," especially judging by the blather in the old article. I mean, feel free to prove me wrong, but... SnowFire 20:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for commenting! Among others I agree with the fact that since there exists an article on Friendship an article of the opposite of friendship would be needed, also as part in the series on "Close relationships" (Template:Close Relationships) (the list includes Marriage vs. Divorce, Friendship etc.). To be more consistent the antonym of friendship is Animosity (so not Enemy).
- I think interesting articles on Friendship and Animosity can be written that are more than dictionary definitions. Subsections could be written on Animosity in the arts or theories about friendship etc.
- As far as the disambiguation pages Friend and Enemy is concerned, they should be referred to from the articles Friendship and Animosity (in the opening paragraph). Then Friend (disambiguation) (or Friends (disambiguation)) and Enemy (disambiguation) (or Enemies (disambiguation)) may refer to more specific articles like Friends (album) or The Enemy (Middle-earth). Don't know about disambiguation pages of a disambiguation page though..:). What do you think? Brz7 17:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- Erm. Care to explain why we "need" that article? Wikipedia is not a dictionary (WP:NOT), and I really can't see much to say about the concept of an "enemy," especially judging by the blather in the old article. I mean, feel free to prove me wrong, but... SnowFire 20:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Friendship, yes, there's something to say there perhaps. But enemy is entirely too formal and neutral. Heck, you can be friends with someone and still be their enemy. It'd be like trying to write an article on an opponent in chess; anything that could be reasonably be written is about players in chess. An enemy is just a guy on the other side, someone who currently opposes you, nothing more.
Tell you what. I'll add a see also to hate, though that certainly doesn't have to be the case between enemies. At least something can be written on hate. SnowFire 19:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Restore as an article
editI disagree with the disambiguation of this page. Although it may be a difficult concept to write about, "enemy" has a clear primary meaning that is not any of the TV episodes or song or album titles presented here. Enemies are important in literature (consider the rogues gallery of any comic book superhero), and the formation and concilation of enemy relationships is an import concept psychologically. bd2412 T 13:35, 4 October 2011 (UTC)