Talk:Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007

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A bit out of date

It's been on the Senate floor since at least Tuesday evening. Jon 13:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

It's now passed the Senate in a differnt form, either last Thursday or Friday. The article also should include the major differences between the house passed version and the senate passed version. Jon 13:59, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Merge

I agree to the merge with the CLEAN Energy Act article . --HybridBoy 11:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Gas price

• Since the week of January 12, 2007 when the bill was introduced, the US national average price of gasoline (all grades) has gone from 228.0 US cents per gallon to 402.6 US cents per gallon as of the week of June 2, 2008. The week of December 18, 2007 when President Bush signed the bill making it law, the national average price of gasoline was 305.0 US cents per gallon.[1]

Why are we adding this material? It appears we are making the point that the bill caused a rise in gas prices. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to remove this, as it appears to violate WP:OR/WP:SYNTH. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The material is appropriate as it is a gage of how effective the act has been in achieving/failing to achieve its stated purpose of making energy more affordable. I'm going to replace it as it's obviously well sourced and unless you think I am the US Government it is obviously not "original research." Anyone can pluck the same data from the table linked. --Neil Brown (talk) 03:21, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

We'd need a source that connects the increase in fuel prices to this legislation. Otherwise we could add the smae material on gas prices to dozens of articles, likewise implying that they are the coause of the increase. Furthermore, we have no evidence that the bill didn't succeed in keeping costs lower than they might have been otherwise. Lastly, most of the provisions of the bill don't take effect immediately. So altogether, we can't make the decision on our own that these higher prices are because of or despite the bill. If this isn't clear then I suggest you re-read WP:SYNTH. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 06:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Unintended consequences of RFS mandate

"Since the ethanol production mandates are hard production targets that must be manufactured and put into gasoline, all of the gasoline in the US is being taken E10, 10% ethanol mixed with 90% gasoline." -- not only does this not make grammatical sense ("is being taken E10"), it's just flat wrong. I have ethanol-free gas where I live and where I travel all over the eastern U.S. I would delete the sentence if I could be sure what it even means, but I'd rather see someone who knows what they're talking about change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.250.255.115 (talk) 01:49, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

The very confusing E10 terminology has not been changed at all since the previous comment was inserted, despite this original note, and my request for clarification. I am deleting this section from the article per Wikipedia:Patent nonsense, as it is is incomprehensible unless you know what the (unexplained) terminology means, and this situation has not been corrected, despite having been pointed out over a year ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LrdDimwit (talk • contribs) 05:13, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

FREEDOM Act

This Act includes the FREEDOM Act http://cantwell.senate.gov/news/record.cfm?id=306895 --Nopetro (talk) 15:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

General Rewording

I reworded the first two sentences to improve clarity but didn't change any underlying content. Btearney (talk) 21:12, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

I re-worded a tiny bit of the first paragraph for clarification and to practice.

FruitForAll (talk) 14:43, 8 October 2010 (UTC)FruitForAll

Reorganized and Edited Provisions of final version

I renamed the section “Provisions of Final Version” to “Summary of Legislation” and reorganized the existing bullet points into the appropriate “Title” subtitle. I also added additional information about the first four titles of the bill and left the previous information under “Other Provisions”. The bill contains a total of 16 Titles, more of which can be added at a later date. Wikishadow3 (talk) 21:56, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Typos matter

I was working on the WP:Typo team tasks to clean up Efficency to Efficiency and found a redirect from Energy Efficency and Conservation Block Grants to Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007. However there is also an article at Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grants. Is the misspelled redirect also misdirected? Or should the article Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grants be merged with Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007? Subject matter experts, please offer your opinions to this helpful Gnome. ejly (talk) 13:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Propose adding a new section?

Hi, I'd like to add a new section that discusses a National Research Council report that looked at the economic and environmental impacts of reaching the Renewable Fuel Standard. The text I'd like to add is as follows:

A 2011 report from the United States National Research Council investigated the potential economic and environmental effects of reaching the Renewable Fuel Standard, which mandates that 35 billion gallons of ethanol-equivalent biofuels and 1 billion gallons of biomass-based diesel be consumed in the United States by 2022.

The study found that the United States already has the capacity to produce 14 billion gallons of corn-grain ethanol (an amount close to the consumption mandate for conventional biofuels in 2022) and has infrastructure for producing 2.7 billion gallons of biomass-based diesel. However, the consumption mandate for cellulosic biofuels will not likely be met. Although the United States can likely produce adequate cellulosic feedstock to be converted into biofuels to meet the mandate, there are currently no commercially viable biorefineries to convert such plant matter into fuel. Even if commercial-scale technology was available by 2015, aggressive deployment of this technology—where capacity build rate would double the build rate for corn-grain ethanol seen in recent years—would be needed to meet the 2022 goal. However, policy uncertainty and high production costs may deter investors from supporting aggressive deployment in the timeframe necessary to meet the mandate.

Even if the Renewable Fuel Standard could be achieved, it may not be effective in addressing global greenhouse-gas emissions, the report concluded. Some of the key factors that influence environmental effects of biofuels are site specific and depend on the type of feedstocks produced, the management practices used to produce them, prior land use, and any land-use changes that their production might incur. In addition to greenhouse-gas emissions, production and use of biofuels affect air quality, water quality, water use, and biodiversity.

What do you think? Earlgrey101 (talk) 17:07, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

References

United States vs. Imperial Petroleum

Split - The September 19th indictment against Imperial Petroleum has been described by United States Attorney Joe Hogsett as "the largest instance of tax and securities fraud in state history" in Indiana. Thoughts? --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:21, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

External References : Three Letter Acronym - Expansion

• TLA - Three Letter Acronym.
• CRS - Another TLA , this time describing the Congress Research Service.

Expansion of the TLA CRS so that the Text is *More* readable to others, not versed in the TLA nomenclature, to allow for defined expression. This reduces the ambiguity of what the CRS is. The CRS is a branch of Congress, and as such is a department within the US Government. Richard416282 (talk) 23:22, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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