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Conflation of "engineers" with "professional engineers"
editThe vast majority of engineers in the US, most of whom have at least 4-year degrees in engineering, are NOT "professional engineers". "Professional engineers" are licensed and regulated by the states and this is generally required for only small subsets of jobs that generally deal directly with the public or have significant public safety or public policy implications. This licensure is not required for the vast majority of working engineers. I have worked as an engineer for 25+ years and the vast majority of my peers did not need it.
This article is written in a confusing way that spends a lot of time on licensing and regulation instead of what engineers actually perform and accomplish. Since there is a whole different article titled Regulation and licensure in engineering, we should strip out most of the licensing information and replace it with something like "Some engineering jobs may be required to be licensed in certain countries. See link" and leave it at that.
--- this section was left unsigned - Please sign~! SpiralSource (talk) 16:55, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Perception
editThis section is untenable as of now; subsections are pending review. They require adequate sources. Title may be inappropriate. Section may be subject to dilution to other areas of the article, heavy revision, renaming, or deletion. It is unsatisfactory. I will be adding a section citation needed banner. SpiralSource (talk) 16:55, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
The section on how the UK views engineers reads like an engineer came in and started ripping on people for not knowing what a true engineer is. FWIW I completely agree that the UK uses the word improperly, referring to the guy who fixes the coffee machine as an engineer, but it can be done with more tact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.94.138 (talk) 16:24, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Lead Image change
editRemove image of "a women" for new image that shous the occupation in a better way with two engineers of both sexes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engineeringlife (talk • contribs) 04:11, 17 November 2022 (UTC)