Talk:Erawan Shrine

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Paul 012 in topic Hindu Brahma vs Buddhist Mahabrahma

Hate crime?

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I am bothered by the hate crime angle being played up in this article. I've looked for some news sources and most only mention that he was a Muslim in passing. Wisekwai 15:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I haven't seen that mentioned in the news either. They cited mental illness as the cause. So I took the questionable sentence out. -- Lerdsuwa 16:51, 22 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

All the news sources have the identical information. Carrying a hammer in the middle of the night, specifically for destroying the statue completely means cold blooded intent. This blog http://ktemoc.blogspot.com/2006/03/dbkl-smashed-statues-of-hindu-gods.html records some other hate crimes against by Muslims in Malaysia. Of course, desecrating a Koran would be a hate crime but desecrating a deity's statue is kosher.

Destroying a religious relic is not in itself a hate crime. It depends on the motivations of the attacker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.50.130.11 (talk) 00:42, 19 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

What is horrible is that this section is named "2006 Vandalism". It should be "2006 Murder" Jyg (talk) 05:43, 21 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

More controversy

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In the early hours of news reporting about this incident, I came across only one source, Reuters, that was reporting the man was a Muslim. This was subsequently picked up by a few other agencies. AP reported that some Arabic tattoos were found on the man, prompting police to investigate ties to Muslim extremists, but nothing more appears to be forthcoming on that. So I've removed that he was a Muslim. The report of the police investigation could be added, though. Now, however, there are the wild accusations by Sondhi Limthongkul that Thaksin plotted to destroy the statue because of black magic. There are sources for this (that simply say Sondhi made the accusations), but I wonder if adding these details will be seen as an improvement to this article? Wisekwai 12:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hindu temple??

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I've been to Erawan lots, and didn't see a Hindu priest or a single Hindu-style ceremony; I saw lots and lots of Thai, and some Chinese, adn my understanding is that Erawan is a giant spirit house; many spirit houses, most in fact, have representations of Brahma, but the observance is Thai animism and if anything more connected to Thai Buddhism than to any latent Hinduism in Thailand... ....I was told the only Hindu temple in BAngkok is the one down on Silom, near the (sole) mosque on the soi opposite it. Also, the story I heard about the site is that there'd been a grove of trees at the location which aws the source of the malcontent spirits; I'd also been told that Hyatt kicked in a bunch of money to build the shrine to resolve that problem.....anyway I don't think either the Hindu shrine category or the Hindu shrines in Thailand template are appropriate; this is not a Hindu temple for sure, despite the statue of a Hindu god (whose representation in Thailand means something considerably different than it does in India/Hinduism...).Skookum1 (talk) 05:55, 16 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

There are many Erawan shrines (not temples) all over Thailand, as well as shrines to Ganesha. I don't know what a Hindu priest is supposed to look like, but in Thailand they would, of course, be Thai rather than Indian. :)
BTW, Erawan is actually the elephant image on the shrine, not the four-faced deity.
Kortoso (talk) 08:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
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Herostratus link?

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I get that this particular Hindu temple was vandalized by a mentally unstable man and then bombed in 2015. It seems stretching things significantly to link this article to that of Herostratus. There must be hundreds of acts of vandalism & violence at sacred sites around the word that are considerably more relevant to this particular situation than the ancient Greek who wanted eternal fame by burning the temple of Diana at Ephesus. Thoughts? Lapisphil (talk) 04:56, 21 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Removed. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:07, 21 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Hindu Brahma vs Buddhist Mahabrahma

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Issue raised at Talk:Phra Phrom#Hindu Brahma vs Buddhist Mahabrahma. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:25, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Reply