Talk:Erecura

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By whom? where? What list of deities is this coming from? Pop mythology is not helpful. Wetman 04:38, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Suggest a move

Of the many spellings for this deity, Aericura is one of the least attested. Jufer & Luginbühl list the following spellings:

• Aerecura (3)
• Eracura (2)
• Erecura (2)
• Herecura (2)
• Aericura (1)
• Eraecura (1)

plus a gaggle of others with key letters missing. Now, assuming their data is right, then clearly the vowel in the second syllable should be e (this is easily the most common: 7 times against 2 for a, 1 for ae, 1 for i). As for the initial syllable, we have ae 4 times against e 7 times. Finally, we only actually see an initial h twice. Erecura seems to me the most natural pick: it's the form from all which others diverge the least; however, I could also settle for Herecura or Aerecura. QuartierLatin1968 01:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Seeing no objection, I've completed the move from Aericura to Erecura. QuartierLatin1968 18:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Algeria?

Jufer & Luginbühl mention an inscription at "Announa (?)". There is a question mark where their country code would normally be. One Announa (the only one?) is at Thibilis in Algeria. It seems believable to me that Gaulish soldiers or merchants passed through there at some stage, pausing long enough to leave a dedication to their favourite goddess, but before I mention this in the article I wanted to bounce the idea off the talk page. Does this notion seem impossibly far-fetched? QuartierLatin1968 22:57, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Algeria

There are 2 twins inscriptions about Erecura in Thibilis, dated around the 3rd s. They are dedicated to both Magna Mater and Erecura. I'm currently working on it in my studies. I don't know about you theory on soldiers or merchants, believable as you said but Magna Mater is quite popular in Numidia.

Jerminel,[1]

List of inscriptions

After searching "Epigraphische Datenbank Clauss - Slaby", I found, 20 insciptions refering to Aererura and other one to Arecurius. If Anyone ever needs the list, Feel free to contact me. Jerminel (talk)

Hecuba?

Hecuba? Can this possibly be what Green said? (There's no preview of the book online.) If so, what is she basing this on? How does it make sense to compare a consort of Dis Pater to Hecuba? Cynwolfe (talk) 16:21, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Being associated with Dis Pater probably just means that they appear together on some inscriptions. As for Green theory, Ἑκάβη beeing the greek term for Hecuba, It seems rather differant from Erecura. I haven't read Green's book but after quick search on sounds and linguistic, It appears that the greek β sounded like a /b/ and the latin R like a /r/ or a /ɾ/. These two are a quite different according to the IPA pulmonic consonants chart. (see Consonant). Jerminel (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

My understanding is that Dis Pater and Erecura appear as a couple on inscriptions, not just randomly within the same inscription, but I could be wrong about that. I wasn't assuming a linguistic basis for the identification with Hecuba if it came from Miranda Green, but rather a thematic or functional equivalence, about which she is rather freely creative. Cynwolfe (talk) 14:10, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if M.G. listed the Erecura inscription but I did try to do it a couple of years ago and found only about 30 inscription, using the Epigraphische Datenbank Clauss. I can't really remember if DP appeared in many of them, but I don't think he did. I'll check it out when I come back home. Anyhow, as far as I can remember, I don't quite understand how anyone could make that assumption that Hecuba and Herecura are associated, knowing how little information is available about the later. (sorry, I'm not a native English speaker, hope u get it all ) Jerminel (talk) 08:23, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Hecuba is what she said. I know. Eye roll. She must have meant Proserpine, surely. She makes the identification in a very offhand way. She wasn't even trying to suggest a similarity between the names Hecuba and Herecura, because she uses the spelling Aericura. Q·L·1968 ☿ 18:09, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I think I'm going to adjust the pronunciation to reflect X. Delamarre's analysis as /eːrɪkuːraː/, which would mean that the penult would attract primary stress in Latin /eːreˈkuːra/; we'd thus get English /ɛrɪˈkjʊərə/ (hopefully this is the right way to use the IPA for English key...). In any case, a stressed antepenult is not likely. Q·L·1968 ☿ 16:49, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

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They foudn more Aery Cura inscribtion than this, for exampel one in Bregenz /Austria — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.166.15.126 (talk) 22:04, 25 June 2017 (UTC)