Talk:Ermengol I

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Requested move 17 October 2024

Latest comment: 1 month ago4 comments4 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved - No consensus that this disambiguation is required under WP:NCROY, low engagement from the community so no need for a re-list. (non-admin closure) FOARP (talk) 17:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ermengol I → Ermengol I of Urgell
Ermengol II → Ermengol II of Urgell
Ermengol III → Ermengol III of Urgell
Ermengol IV → Ermengol IV of Urgell
Ermengol V → Ermengol V of Urgell
Ermengol VI → Ermengol VI of Urgell
Ermengol VII → Ermengol VII of Urgell
Ermengol VIII → Ermengol VIII of Urgell
Ermengol IX → Ermengol IX of Urgell
Ermengol X, Count of Urgell → Ermengol X of Urgell

– All but the last of these were recently moved without discussion with the following rationale: Make shorter (WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE): Per WP:NCROY guideline and WP:AT policy. No need for the disambiguation. Of course, the name Ermengol does need disambiguation. The question is whether the appropriate disambiguation is a mere numeral or a numeral and land. I say the latter. The numeral is tied to the land. Srnec (talk) 00:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oppose and move Ermengol X, Count of Urgell to Ermengol X, per WP:SOVEREIGN. In the absence of clear consensus at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Titles of European monarchs, the guideline stands and the territory should not be used for disambiguation. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
If we read WP:NCROY#Other cases strictly, shouldn't these be moved to "Ermengol NN, Count of Urgell"? Personally, I don't think pre-emptive disambiguation is useful in this case since "Ermengol NN" is unambiguous. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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