Talk:Ermengol I

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Requested move 17 October 2024

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It has been proposed in this section that multiple pages be renamed and moved.

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Ermengol I → Ermengol I of Urgell
Ermengol II → Ermengol II of Urgell
Ermengol III → Ermengol III of Urgell
Ermengol IV → Ermengol IV of Urgell
Ermengol V → Ermengol V of Urgell
Ermengol VI → Ermengol VI of Urgell
Ermengol VII → Ermengol VII of Urgell
Ermengol VIII → Ermengol VIII of Urgell
Ermengol IX → Ermengol IX of Urgell
Ermengol X, Count of Urgell → Ermengol X of Urgell

– All but the last of these were recently moved without discussion with the following rationale: Make shorter (WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE): Per WP:NCROY guideline and WP:AT policy. No need for the disambiguation. Of course, the name Ermengol does need disambiguation. The question is whether the appropriate disambiguation is a mere numeral or a numeral and land. I say the latter. The numeral is tied to the land. Srnec (talk) 00:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oppose and move Ermengol X, Count of Urgell to Ermengol X, per WP:SOVEREIGN. In the absence of clear consensus at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Titles of European monarchs, the guideline stands and the territory should not be used for disambiguation. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
If we read WP:NCROY#Other cases strictly, shouldn't these be moved to "Ermengol NN, Count of Urgell"? Personally, I don't think pre-emptive disambiguation is useful in this case since "Ermengol NN" is unambiguous. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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