Talk:Ernie Awards
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Couldn't find winners
editI haven't written a list of winners, because there doesn't seem to be a single document listing them all. Perhaps the book written about the awards may help, but I didn't want to just cobble something together based on newspaper reports. Andjam (talk) 12:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Looked at the book via google books (1000 terrible things, not one thousand - searching sometimes has its problems), and it looks like it has a full list at the end. Andjam (talk) 12:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've got the book - picked it up just the other day in fact. Would you like me to add a list of the winners? (and if so, with or without quotes?) Rebecca (talk) 05:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes please, and with quotes. The more information, the better. I tried to list some of the nominees in User:Andjam/Sandbox - some are redlinks, while I unwikified some as there are other people with the same name. Also, should there be wikipedia categories like Category:Ernie Award winners along the lines of Category:Worst Picture Razzie winners? Andjam (talk) 10:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- The book also has a full list of nominees and quotes for each year, but I'm a bit concerned about reproducing that - as you'd be reproducing most of the contents of the book, and it may well be copyright violation. A list of those nominated might be alright, but not so useful without the context of what they actually said. Rebecca (talk) 11:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- It feels wrong to copy large chunks of text, but I'd guess that there isn't enough creative elements to the portions in question to qualify as a copyright violation. Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright#What_is_copyright? refers to this concept. That being said, I don't know what the situation is like for Australia. I'll ask at the Australian noticeboard. Andjam (talk) 11:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- One problem I can say is I'm by no means sure that these were all the nominations: the book is half history of the Ernie Awards, half collection of funny quotes, and considering that some of the actual winners were left out were they were nominated for an action rather than a direct quote, I suspect they've probably been selected from the nominees - in which there would be too many creative elements to use. Rebecca (talk) 12:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- It feels wrong to copy large chunks of text, but I'd guess that there isn't enough creative elements to the portions in question to qualify as a copyright violation. Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright#What_is_copyright? refers to this concept. That being said, I don't know what the situation is like for Australia. I'll ask at the Australian noticeboard. Andjam (talk) 11:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- The book also has a full list of nominees and quotes for each year, but I'm a bit concerned about reproducing that - as you'd be reproducing most of the contents of the book, and it may well be copyright violation. A list of those nominated might be alright, but not so useful without the context of what they actually said. Rebecca (talk) 11:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes please, and with quotes. The more information, the better. I tried to list some of the nominees in User:Andjam/Sandbox - some are redlinks, while I unwikified some as there are other people with the same name. Also, should there be wikipedia categories like Category:Ernie Award winners along the lines of Category:Worst Picture Razzie winners? Andjam (talk) 10:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've got the book - picked it up just the other day in fact. Would you like me to add a list of the winners? (and if so, with or without quotes?) Rebecca (talk) 05:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I've gone through and listed all the winners, apart from some of last year's winners, which came after the book's publication and which I can't quickly find names for. I've also added quotes for the Gold Ernie winners, and I'll go through and do the others at some point.
It's being made a bit slower because the reasons why a bunch of the people who actually won did so are not recorded in the book - generally the cases when some company won it for bad behaviour rather than some idiot coming out with something stupid. I've been trying to track the reasons down in these cases with limited success, but it means it's taking a lot longer to add.
I'm also really bad with adding tables and formatting these things, so if someone could make that list somewhat less ugly, it'd be much appreciated. Rebecca (talk) 12:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)