Talk:Ersekë
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Albania/Greek spelling
editWhy is this article using the romanized Greek name instead of the Albanian name, the Albanian name redirects to here? --Stalfur (talk) 02:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
- Actually there is no reason to have the name in Greek. There are no Greek minorities in Erseke, so no need to have the name in Greek.--sulmues (talk) 23:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- Leonardos Soles, is from Erseka and look at his votes Λεονάρδος Σόλης 56%, Ερσέκα,Megistias (talk) 23:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't speak Greek and I have no clue who this Leonardos is. --sulmues (talk) 23:20, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- What's whith this obsession... The town is ethnically mixed and this is sourced.Alexikoua (talk) 07:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Obsession? You have 200K Albanians in Athens, but you wouldn't dream calling it by the Albanian name right? --sulmues (talk) 00:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Proposed move
editErseka → Ersekë — This is the correct undefined form in Albanian. Erseka is the defined form, but the correct use for place names is the undefined form. Sulmues Let's talk 21:37, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Comment but which form is more common in ENGLISH? 70.29.212.131 (talk) 03:21, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Oppose: This is the English Wikipedia, the specific argument is irrelevant here.Alexikoua (talk) 04:50, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support: per ghits.Alexikoua (talk) 06:47, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't understand your reasoning. The English version is dominant for Ersekë. Per Google Books:
- The same reasoning is used for Korçë, or Gjirokastër: we don't use Korça or Gjirokastra in the English Wikipedia, because Korça or Gjirokastra are the defined version and not preferred in Albanian, and are not preferred in English either. Consistency is needed, and anyways in English we have the preponderance of Ersekë. The only exception that confirms the rule is Tirana.--Sulmues Let's talk 05:02, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
"You have 200K Albanians in Athens" they could be kicked out if youd like..erseke is the name to use obviously so just move it already87.202.61.15 (talk) 20:31, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- So you also support the move? --Sulmues Let's talk 21:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
its the best choice imo so yes...87.202.54.4 (talk) 04:30, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support. 70.29.212.131 is correct; the relevant question is which form is more common in English.--Atemperman (talk) 00:27, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- Comment from WP:MOSKOS: The recommended international usage for Albanian toponyms is to use feminine place names in the definite form and masculine placenames in the indefinite form, i.e. Prishtina rather than Prishtinë, Mitrovica rather than Mitrovicë, Prizren rather than Prizreni, Kaçanik rather than Kaçaniku., and then goes on to cite a source about that (which I didn't check myself). Granted, this is about Kosovo rather than Albania, but I would rather be consistent within Wikipedia, than to rely on ~1000 Google hits.No such user (talk) 15:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- That policy has to change. Indeed Prizren and Kaçanik are not even feminine, but masculine. --Sulmues Let's talk 02:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Elementary English skills
editThe use of adjectives in English isn't limited to ethnic groups, as paradoxically stated in this edit summary [[1]]. Adjectives can be also used for governments and political entities: as the name "Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus" suggests the appropriate adjective for the armed forces of this political entity is "Northern Epirote". I assume that's too easy to understand even for readers with elementary level English skills.Alexikoua (talk) 20:20, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
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