Talk:Erskine Ramsay

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I have Erskine Ramsay's signature and various audio clips from his past that I would like to contribute. These audio clips were taken from newly discovered vinyl records, and were digitized. They include biographical information narrated by Erskine Ramsay himself and others. Eramsay3 (talk) 13:21, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

I came upon this article from stalking User talk:Drmies. It looks like there's some medal in the extractive ibdustries named after this person p66, he was Chairman of the Birmingham school board for a number of years p224, he was on the board of regents of the Alabama Museum of Natural History early on oh no my browser blanked all my PDFs and won't display the contents anymore because I tabbed out of the app to reply to a text, leading to an archaeological collection somewhere being named after him. Also evidently he had a habit of opening savings accounts for Alabama boys who shared his forename.

User:Eramsay3, does all this stuff sound like it's talking about your ancestor? It looks like there are sources that can be added to the article. All of the links require Wikipedia Library access. I'll be back in a bit with page numbers and maybe citation templates, after I restart my browser. Wanted to save this comment first though. Folly Mox (talk) 18:01, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Linktext "being named after him" refers to Erskine Ramsay Archaeological Repository located at Moundville Archaeological Park (p 62, which contained some sort of formatting characters which completely broke ReplyTool).

Linktext "oh no my browser etc" refers to With the [Alabama Museum of Natural History]'s incorporation, [Eugene Allen] Smith and [Walter] Jones established a Board of Regents and wisely populated that group with prominent Birmingham industrialists, including Temple W. Tutwiler, Erskine Ramsay, and Robert Jemison, Jr., p 22, citing "John C. Hall and Frances O. Robb, “Eugene Allen Smith and the Geological Survey of Alabama,” Alabama Heritage 33 (1994): 8-18". Folly Mox (talk) 18:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Erskine Ramsay Award

Erskine Ramsay Archaeological Repository, which apparently got robbed in 1980. Folly Mox (talk) 18:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes. All this is correct. I want to curate a Wikipedia page for Erskine Ramsay, that won't get deleted every time I edit. The hard part is that since most of the source material was created before the Internet (letters (some from Andrew Carnegie & Frick), books, MANY newspapers articles....we have boxes of this stuff), so I will have to source material that doesn't have Internet links. There is also much source material at the State of Alabama Archives.

I also have a few audio clips that I want to upload. These were captured from newly discovered vinyl records that I had digitized. One of these records was in the State of Alabama Archives.

I want to do a good job, but this might take a while to make complete. 2600:1700:6900:4510:C6F:D747:81B0:AECE (talk) 00:36, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Offline sources are fine, as long as an interested editor can somehow access the source to verify it. It doesn't have to be easy. So archival materials in the State of Alabama Archives would be acceptable (we even have a citation template specifically for citing archived materials, {{Cite archive}}, which does not include a |url= parameter). This does mean, however, that the personal correspondence you have from Andrew Carnegie and Frick would not be an acceptable source, since no one else can double check it to make sure it supports article text.

For old newspaper clippings, if you're able to identify the name of the newspaper, the publication date, and the title of the newspaper story, you can cite it using {{Cite news}}, even if you don't have access to an online archive that includes the newspaper article. The page number the story appears on and name of the reporter who authored it are also very useful and highly recommended, but not mandatory.

Books are the same way: if you have a title, author, publication date, and page number, you don't need a link to a digitised version of the book in order to cite it.

If you have access to documentation about Erskine Ramsay that you think is really important to encyclopaedic understanding of him, but has never been published anywhere, and are exceptionally motivated about this article and extremely patient, the final and most difficult route would be to donate the materials to some official archive and wait for the archivists to verify or validate the material as authentic and officially enter it into their archive, after which you would be able to cite it in the article. Probably easier to do all the rest of the stuff first. Best wishes, Folly Mox (talk) 03:26, 9 September 2023 (UTC)