Talk:Eshnunna

Latest comment: 24 days ago by Gulkishar in topic Benjaminites

Unstubbing

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While it could use a bit more work, I've done enough to bring the article out of the stub category.

And before anyone asks, I removed the mention of Eshnunna being destroyed by a flood because AFAIK their is no basis for it. There is a Hammurabi year name where he claims to have repaired the walls of Eshnunna after they were destroyed in a flood, but thats not the same thing. In the ANE when somebody smited somthing for real, they were never shy about saying so. :-) Ploversegg (talk) 23:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)ploverseggReply

Position/Coordinates?

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The position for Eŝnunna is the same as for Tutub in this article: 33° 45′ 0″ N, 44° 45′ 0″ E http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khafajah "The site lies seven miles east of Baghdad and 12 miles southwest of Eshnunna." So one is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.65.94.2 (talk) 17:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

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History Files

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When writing parts of the history section I used the History Filed as a source. However, the History Files is a website and it doesn't even cite its own sources. Should the article be using this source? Ewf9h-bg (talk) 15:38, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Benjaminites

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I am perplexed that Benjaminites have now appeared in the early 2nd millennium BC history of Eshnunna. Maybe I just need to be educated. I thought briefly about this being the Tribe of Benjamin but they were in the wrong place on the map. Ploversegg (talk) 19:24, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, their namings a little confusing. The Mari Benjaminites are not really related to the tribe of Benjamin (there's some suggestion that the tribe of Benjamin might be descended from the Mari Benjaminites but idk how much of a concensus there is on that one). The confusion seems to come from G Dossin who read binū Yamina (binū is west semitic for son, Yamina are a tribal group near Mari) in the Mari texts and named the Mari group after the Israel Benjaminites which weirdly implies a conenction it doesn't look like he really had a basis for. Now it's also read Yaminite, I think Gelb was the first to do this in the 60s. Doesn't seem like there's any real concensus on the name, i'm not sure but I think American scholars use Yaminite or Banu-Yamina more now and the French (Charpin and Durand) still use Benjaminite?
Also I noticed in the Mari article the groups referred to as Banu-Yamina, so maybe we should change the name in this one to match. Gulkishar (talk) 05:10, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Wow, Dossin really did go there. I probably read that and my eyes glazed over it. Yeah, I would go with Iaminites or Yaminites to avoid confusion.Ploversegg (talk) 13:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Just changed it to Yaminite. I also changed all references to this group I could find on other pages to Yaminites just so they all match and its clear who they're referring to Gulkishar (talk) 05:01, 25 October 2024 (UTC)Reply