Talk:Essex dialect
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South Essex is different
editThe article is right that South Essex is different in sounding more like Cockney (or Estuary English, as it's evolved into). However, I'm not sure that this is a recent phenomenon. My mother's family were from this area, and even the eldest people in her area sounded Cockney to me. There is/was a collection of old dialect recordings on the British Library website, but this seems to be undergoing reconstruction. If it gets back online, we should check some of the recordings from South Essex. I listened to them in the past, and was struck by how little seems to have changed in South Essex speech over time. Here in Yorkshire, most of the old recordings represent an extinct form of speech. Epa101 (talk) 10:13, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Disappearing?
editThe Essex is not disappearing, it is rapidly evolving... A disappearance would be a cultural loss but what you have instead is a rapidly evolving accent which is something to be celebrated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.43.202.60 (talk) 22:50, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Saying a dialect isn't worthy of note is anti-dialect
editThe merger merges it with a page which says nothing about it, it is a sourced page which leads me to believe this is out of a dislike of my dialect, it is disrespectful atleast to remove a dialect — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.52.72 (talk) 23:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- The page indeed says something about it (plus with sources). How can you prove that Wikipedia editors dislike your dialect? Much dialect information with limited scope appears as sections on larger pages. That's pretty standard here on WP. (Like, Rhode Island English as Eastern New England English#Rhode Island English or Black South African English as South African English#Black South African English.) Not really clear what your argument is. Like with different colors, different dialects can get as broad and generalizing ("British English") or as a minusculely narrow and specific as we want ("West Chelmsford English spoken among Black Britons"); the real question is, what is actually backed by sources, and enough to merit its own separate page? Wolfdog (talk) 12:41, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- A disgusting response, Its nothing like that, and you have personally offended me, there is a Suffolk dialect and Norfolk dialect page but not an Essex dialect? the fact it is a real dialect should constitute its own page. 86.30.52.72 (talk) 15:49, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Also those sources are for the preceding sentences. 86.30.52.72 (talk) 15:50, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Looking back on your edits you seem to really target essex in your edits. removing content for essex and lumping them in with other ones, if you are to redirect it at all, direct it to East Anglian English 86.30.52.72 (talk) 15:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Also those sources are for the preceding sentences. 86.30.52.72 (talk) 15:50, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm saying you dislike the dialec that shwy you've targeted my dialect so vengefully "West Chelmsford English spoken among Black Britons" thats not even a good faith comparison if anything that could come across as a tad racist implying the whole "londonistan england isn't white anymore" conspiracy theory. 86.30.52.72 (talk) 16:04, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- A disgusting response, Its nothing like that, and you have personally offended me, there is a Suffolk dialect and Norfolk dialect page but not an Essex dialect? the fact it is a real dialect should constitute its own page. 86.30.52.72 (talk) 15:49, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- OP has been blocked in both their IP and registered accounts. Canterbury Tail talk 21:09, 19 June 2022 (UTC)