Talk:Ethan Nadelmann

Reference Problem?

the page reference 15 "http://www.drugpolicy.org/about/keystaff/ethannadelma/" links to doesn't exist anymore. Probably should be replaced with "http://www.nationalfamilies.org/legalization/enadelmann.html" but I have no clue how to do that AAnotherDifferentName (talk) 03:53, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Quotes

WP:NOT#DIR states that articles shouldn't be filled with many quotes. I suggest we send those over to wikiquote, unless we only have a few in which case we can embed them throughout the article.--'oac' (old american century) | Talk 19:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

But these particular quotes are central to what his positions are. They can't really be imbedded, because the article is short. And there are only two of them. --Rbraunwa 15:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I created the Wikiquote article weeks back and linked to it in External Links. I'm fine with leaving these quotes insofar as additional quotes are transcribed to Wikiquote or replace existing quotes. —oac old american century ^talk @ 18:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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Some proposed changes

* Specific text to be added or removed: After "Nadelmann was born in New York City" add "and raised in West Chester, New York in a Jewish family; his father, Ludwig Nadelmann, was a rabbi and a "leading figure in the Jewish Reconstructionist movement."

* Reason for the change: Nadelmann was not raised in New York City. He was raised in West Chester, and the evidence for this is that he graduated from Scarsdale High School. His fater was not only a rabbi but was a "leading figure" according to the New York Times.

* References supporting change:

1. "DAs". Scarsdale Alumni Association. Retrieved 2022-08-15.
2. ^ "LUDWIG NADELMAN". The New York Times. 1986-12-08. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2022-08-15.

Josekauf (talk) 16:32, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done: Hi. I've taken care of his father's bit. However, cannot add "raised in West Chester" unless the source specifically states it, even though it might be inferred from him attending that high school. PK650 (talk) 08:09, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Some proposed changes

* Specific text to be added or removed:

After "He earned B.A., J.D., and Ph.D. degrees from Harvard University and a master’s degree in international relations from the London School of Economics" add "Nadelmann began to see the flaws in American drug policy as a college student. While pursuing his PhD in 1983, Nadelmann "got a security clearance and worked as a consultant to the State Department's Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs." After interviewing "hundreds of DEA and foreign drug-enforcement officials" in 19 countries, Nadelmann published his dissertation, "Cops Across Borders: The Internationalization of U.S. Criminal Law Enforcement" in Pennsylvania State University Press.[citation 1] Reviewing the dissertation in Foreign Affairs, David C. Hendrickson called it a "pioneering and prodigiously researched work." However, Hendrickson also touched on how Nadelmann's strong positions on the War on Drugs affected the dissertation, saying that "given Nadelmann's known objections to the war on drugs, this gives the book an odd character." [citation 2] Nadelmann then began to focus on the "harms created by drug prohibition" as he taught politics and public affairs at Princeton University from 1987 to 1994." [citation 1]

* Reason for the change: This edit adds information about why Nadelmann decided to write academically about drugs and adds specific information about his dissertation and its reception, both good and bad.

* References supporting change:

1. Torgoff, Martin (2004). Can't find my way home : America in the great stoned age, 1945-2000. New York. pp. 428–430. ISBN 978-0-7432-5863-0. OCLC 1001295642.
2. HendricksonNovember/December 1994, David C. (2009-01-28). "Cops Across Borders: The Internationalization of U.S. Criminal Law Enforcement". ISSN 0015-7120. Retrieved 2022-08-16.

Much of the above has been  Partly done Submit another request for further changes. Duke Gilmore (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

*Specific text to be added or removed:

After "While he was at Princeton, Nadelmann lectured and wrote extensively on drug policy," add "He formed the Princeton Working Group on the Future of Drug Use and Alternatives to Drug Prohibition. The group included eighteen scholars including Lester Grinspoon, Andrew Weil, and Alexander T. Shulgin. Martin Torgoff wrote in Can't Find my Way Home that that for a breif time, Nadelmann's Working Group was "the most dynamic de facto drug-reform think tank in the United States." [citation 1]

*Reason for the change: The secondary source below touches on the importance of Nadelmann's "Working Group" at Princeton. Many of the most influential drug scholars were a part of it.

*References supporting change:

1. Torgoff, Martin (2004). Can't find my way home : America in the great stoned age, 1945-2000. New York. pp. 428–430. ISBN 978-0-7432-5863-0. OCLC 1001295642.

Much of the above has been  Partly done Submit another request for further changes. Duke Gilmore (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

*Specific text to be added or removed:

After "Nadelmann founded the Lindesmith Center in 1994, a drug policy institute created with the support of George Soros." add "In Soros: The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire, Michael T. Kaufman wrote of Nadelmann and Soros's relationship, which formed after Soros read Nadelmann's Spring 1988 piece in Foreign Policy, "U.S. Drug Policy: A Bad Export” as Soros had also published the piece "After Black Monday" in the same issue:"

Soros was so impressed with the drug policy piece that he contacted its author, Ethan Nadelmann. By 1993, with Soros's financial backing, Nadelmann established the Lindesmith Center, a policy institute named after Alfred E. Lindesmith, a sociologist who in the 1930s and 1940s had opposed harsh policies of drug prohibition in favor of medical treatment of addicts. Nadelmann, both brash and persuasive, identified the center's mission as seeking "harm reduction," which he defined as "an alternative approach to drug policy and treatment that focuses on minimizing the adverse effects of both drug use and drug prohibition. [citation 1]

*Reason for the change: The secondary source below ads insight into how Soros and Nadelmann met. This source also shows Nadelmann's goals in founding the Lindesmith Center.

*References supporting change:

1. "Soros: the life and times of a Messianic billionaire". Choice Reviews Online. 40 (01): 306. 2002-09-01. doi:10.5860/choice.40-0418. ISSN 0009-4978.

Much of the above has been  Partly done Submit another request for further changes. Duke Gilmore (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

*Specific text to be added or removed:

After " He has been criticized for his libertarian position on drugs." add" "Nadelmann stepped down as executive director in 2017."

*Reason for the change: This is simply a fact that should be in the page.

*References supporting change: "Drug Policy Alliance executive director Nadelmann stepping down". MJBizDaily. 2017-01-27. Retrieved 2022-08-16.

Already  Done Duke Gilmore (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

*Specific text to be added or removed:

After the subheading "Drug Policy Alliance" add a subheading "Ballot Initiatives." Under this subheading, add "Starting with Proposition 215 in California in 1996, Nadelmann and the Lindesmith Center (later the Drug Policy Alliance) funded campaigns to legalize medical marijuana and lessen penalties for non-violent drug possession charges,[citation 1] as in the case of Proposition 200 in Arizona in 1996.[citation 2] The three major funders were Peter Lewis, Soros, and John Sperling—the Washington Post calling them "a trio of enormously wealthy businessmen who are united behind one idea: that the war on drugs is a failure."[citation 3] In A New Leaf, Alyson Martin and Nushin Rashidan wrote, "[Nadelmann's] skills as a closer complemented his ability to connect very different and very influential individuals who cared about drug policy.""[citation 4]

*Reason for the change: The ballot initiatives are a crucial part of the work that Nadelmann did at the Lindesmith Center and the Drug Policy Alliance. He funneled money from billionaires to campaigns to support these causes, and this is very well documented, as the sources below show.

*References supporting change:

1. Martin, Alyson (2014). A new leaf : the end of cannabis prohibition. Nushin Rashidian. New York. pp. 60–90. ISBN 978-1-59558-920-0. OCLC 834421335.
2. ^ Goldberg, Carey (1996-09-11). "Wealthy Ally for Dissidents in the Drug War". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2022-08-16.
3. ^ Booth, William (October 29, 2000). "The Ballot Battle". The Washington Post. Retrieved August 16, 2022.
4. ^ Martin, Alyson (2014). A new leaf : the end of cannabis prohibition. Nushin Rashidian. New York. p. 61. ISBN 978-1-59558-920-0. OCLC 834421335.

Already  Done Duke Gilmore (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

*Specific text to be added or removed:

After the subheading "Ballot initiatives," add a subheading "UNGASS 1998." Under this subheading, add "In 1998, the United Nations General Assembly held a special session on combatting drug use. The Lindesmith Center, lead by Nadelmann, organized a letter to Former Secretary-General of the United Nations Kofi Annan "asserting that the global war on drugs is causing more harm than drug abuse itself." The letter was signed by "hundreds of prominent people around the world" according to the New York Times, including Soros, Javier Perez de Cuellar, George P. Shultz, Oscar Arias, Walter Cronkite, Alan Cranston, Claiborne Pell, and Helen Suzman. Barry McCaffrey, the Clinton Administration's director of national drug policy, criticized the letter, saying it represented ''a 1950's perception'' of drug policy.[citation 1] He later referenced "a carefully camouflaged, exorbitantly funded, well-heeled elitist group whose ultimate goal is to legalize drug use in the United States," likely referring to the efforts of Soros and Nadelmann." [citation 2]

*Reason for the change: The letter that this paragraph is about was national news, and Nadelmann orchestrated it. Clinton administration officials were commenting on it, and many influential individuals signed it. It certainly should be in this article.

*References supporting change:

1. Wren, Christopher S. (1998-06-09). "Anti-Drug Effort Criticized As More Harm Than Help". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2022-08-16.
2. Wren, Christopher S. (1998-06-18). "Drug Policy Official Warns Panel of Effort to Legalize Drugs". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2022-08-16.

Already  Done Duke Gilmore (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

*Specific text to be added or removed:

After the subheading "UNGASS 1998," add a heading "Publications." Add the subheadings "Books" and "Selected Academic Works." Under "Books," add:

• Policing the Globe: Criminalization and Crime Control in International Relations, co-authored with Peter Andreas (Oxford University Press, 2006).

• Cops Across Borders: The Internationalization of U.S. Criminal Law Enforcement (Pennsylvania State University Press, 1993).

• Psychoactive Drugs and Harm Reduction: From Faith to Science, coedited with Nick Heather, Alex Wodak, and Pat O'Hare (Whurr Publishers, 1993).

Under "Selected Academic Works" add:

• Nadelmann, Ethan A. “U. S. Drug Policy: A Bad Export.” Foreign Policy, no. 70 (1988): 83–108. https://doi.org/10.2307/1148617.
• Nadelmann, Ethan A. “The Case for Legalization.” The Public Interest, Summer 1988: 3-38. https://www.nationalaffairs.com/public_interest/detail/the-case-for-legalization
• Nadelmann, Ethan A. “Drug Prohibition in the United States: Costs, Consequences, and Alternatives.” Science 245, no. 4921 (1989): 939–47. http://www.jstor.org/stable/1704189.
• Nadelmann, Ethan A. “Thinking Seriously about Alternatives to Drug Prohibition.” Daedalus 121, no. 3 (1992): 85–132. http://www.jstor.org/stable/20027122.
• Nadelmann, Ethan A. "Commonsense Drug Policy." Foreign Affairs, December 1, 1997. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/1998-01-01/commonsense-drug-policy.
• Nadelmann, Ethan. "An End to Marijuana Prohibition." National Review, July 12, 2004, Box: 1, Folder: 3. Ralph Metzner collection, MSP 56. Purdue University Archives and Special Collections. https://archives.lib.purdue.edu/repositories/2/archival_objects/24498 Accessed August 16, 2022.
• Nadelmann, Ethan. “Drugs.” Foreign Policy, no. 162 (2007): 24–30. http://www.jstor.org/stable/25462207.

*Reason for the change: Nadelmann has published extensively. This should be represented in the article.

*References supporting change: The references are in the text.

Already  Done Duke Gilmore (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

A draft of the formatting of my proposed changes can be found here: User:Josekauf/sandbox/Ethan Nadelmann#cite note-9

Thank you,

Josekauf (talk) 17:35, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

@Josekauf Most of the requested edits have been already implemented. Closing this request. Duke Gilmore (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)