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editThere was a suggestion that private schools be banned in Britain. A counter-suggestion was made, that Eton would have to move to Ireland. It was pointed out that this would produce a generation of Gaelic-speaking Etonians. In the event, all of this never took place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.53.52.160 (talk) 07:29, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Parking a reference
edit- Adams, Richard (24 November 2017). "Eton headteacher to face MPs' questions over exam malpractice". The Guardian. Retrieved 24 November 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClemRutter (talk • contribs) 18:40, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
Old Etonians - Royalty and Nobility
editI have removed “the Goldsmith family” and the Vanderbilt family from the section on Old Etonians headed “Royalty and nobility”:
- I question whether it is appropriate to include links to the page for an entire family, unless perhaps the family is particularly well-known for its connection to Eton. There are such families (eg the Lyttelton family), but the Goldsmith and Vanderbilt families are, so far as I am aware, not among them.
- The cited source for the Vanderbilt family merely records that Cornelia Vanderbilt was engaged to an Old Etonian.
- The cited source for the Goldsmith family is merely an obituary of Sir James Goldsmith, which presumably records that he (like many others) attended Eton.
- The Goldsmith family (unlike the Rothschild family) is not readily characterised as a “noble” English family. I may be treading on American toes, but I also doubt that the Vanderbilt family could appropriately be so characterized.
In view of the first point above, I would also be in favour of removing the Astor family, the Grosvenor family (neither the present head of the family nor his father attended Eton), and the Rothschild family. What do others think? 45ossington (talk) 07:33, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- (since you ask) I would prefer to see the section organised quite differently -- chronologically -- and for every old Etonian with a wikipedia entry to be included -- but that's quite a task to research and implement. Nick Barnett (talk) 14:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
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Addition of random people
editIP user User:175.38.42.62 added picture File:3rd row, 4th from right - Alan Cecil Lupton 1891 Eton.jpg to the article (and it seems to me that the title of the File includes original research, but that's another issue). I removed it on the grounds that the people named in the caption weren't mentioned in the article.
Then another IP user User:2405:6e00:2e68:8d00:30ef:f9a9:f72c:8008 restored the photo, and added the following paragraph: In 1891, Science Master Dr Philip Herbert Carpenter died at Eton from an accidental overdose when he was House Master to Alan Cecil Lupton, whose forebear was Eton Provost Roger Lupton and distant cousin was Catherine, Princess of Wales
, with references.
I cannot see how either the photo or the text adds anything to an article about the College, and neither can Hoary (see WP:HD#Eton College 5 August), and would like to remove them. ColinFine (talk) 16:58, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- This is part of an effort to raise the profile of the obscure Lupton family in Wikipedia. It added nothing to this article, and I have removed it. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:23, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- Given that another IP has just added similar content (which I have reverted), a short term WP:SEMI may be warranted. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 03:01, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- I’d agreed. These bits of trivia are wholly irrelevant to the Eton article. They may have a place in the Lupton family article, which is already stuffed with so much absolute trivia that at least they wouldn’t be out of place. KJP1 (talk) 04:41, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- If I see the same thing happen within a week, I'll take it to WP:RFPP. I'm not usually a fan of protection but there's a clear pattern here, and it's happened three times this week alone, from multiple IPs. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 21:45, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- I’d agreed. These bits of trivia are wholly irrelevant to the Eton article. They may have a place in the Lupton family article, which is already stuffed with so much absolute trivia that at least they wouldn’t be out of place. KJP1 (talk) 04:41, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- Given that another IP has just added similar content (which I have reverted), a short term WP:SEMI may be warranted. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 03:01, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- Editors with opinions on this may also have an opinion on a matter I've raised at Talk:Harriet Martineau. -- Hoary (talk) 22:10, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
How did it become fee-paying?
editI can't see anything in the history section to describe how a free school for poor boys turned into a fee-paying school for the wealthy. Surely this is a topic worthy of being covered here.