Route designations

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I decided to expand the route designations from the current ones to all since the creation of the modern Ohio numbering system (1923) because Euclid is often studied in a historical context. Mapsax (talk) 18:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

How long is Euclid Avenue?--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

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How long is Euclid Avenue? If a citation can be found, add it to the article.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Please clarify: do you mean Euclid Avenue within the borders of the City of Cleveland? Or do you mean to include that stretch lying in the suburbs as well? NorthCoastReader (talk) 04:01, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Requested moves

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Euclid Avenue (disambiguation) already moved to Euclid Avenue, in agreement with consensus here that there is no primary topic. No consensus on moving this article to another title, but the issue got a bit lost in the debate over the disambiguation page. Perhaps another RM is needed to determine whether this page should be moved to Euclid Avenue (Ohio) or Euclid Avenue (Cleveland). Ucucha 16:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)Reply


— Put the disambiguation for multiple "Euclid Avenue"s and "Euclid Avenue Historic District"s at "Euclid Avenue", as the Ohio one is important but I believe it does not meet primary usage criteria. The Ohio avenue extends into other jurisdictions, i think, so use "Euclid Avenue (Ohio)" rather than more specific "(Cleveland, Ohio)" however. doncram (talk) 18:50, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, i must have misstated the proposal meant. Just revised above. The proposal is to move "Euclid Avenue (disambiguation)" to "Euclid Avenue", not to move "Euclid Avenue (Cleveland, Ohio)" to "Euclid Avenue", which is what Vegaswikian objected to. Sorry! --doncram (talk) 19:45, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
OK, striking objection. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:48, 16 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
I made the move yesterday to the current position at "Euclid Avenue (Cleveland, Ohio)". I'm surprised that Clevelander-wikipedians pursued the strategy of seizing the name and using it in many articles, when it is not necessarily primary at all, in real world usage which is what matters. Some discussion at User talk:Doncram#Euclid Avenue. The ones that still point to "Euclid Avenue" can all be fixed. About the Ohio usage being primary, I think the Ohio street is unknown in Southern California where there are one or more prominent long Euclid Avenues that get more exposure every day. doncram (talk) 19:53, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
It would be a mistake to assume that there's an agenda behind the links. Contributors merely linked to the relevant page when editing articles. It's just that there are a lot of notable people and places associated with it. - Eureka Lott 21:04, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
Those links can be updated with a bot request. The existence of links is not a good reason not to name articles appropriately. I'm not saying that's your only argument; but it's not one that really should be considered. TJRC (talk) 21:07, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC suggests the opposite. It of course shouldn't be the only factor, but it should be taken into consideration. - Eureka Lott 21:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
Other factors to take into account, per there, include Google hits. In first 30 google hits on "Euclid Avenue" i am seeing a lot of Atlanta, Georgia ones, a Toronto, Ontario one, some New York ones. Seems like less than 50% relate to Cleveland, Ohio, to me. I don't know how to tally these up, formally, as others commenting in primarytopic discussions often do, i think. doncram (talk) 21:35, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
  • As this discussion has been brought to my attention, I note that there are other Euclid Avenues which are at least notable enough to have been designated as historic districts. The average person to whom "Euclid Avenue" is said will not respond, "oh yes, in Cleveland". There is no primary topic for this term. The appropriate resolution is thus to have this page at a disambiguation title, for which "(Cleveland)" would suffice, and to have the undisambiguated term serve as a disambiguation page. As for incoming links, those are easily dealt with. bd2412 T 03:26, 19 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
    Thanks BD for commenting. I asked BD to comment, after noticing BD moved "Euclid Avenue (disambiguation)" to "Euclid Avenue" while this discussion was ongoing. I am okay with using "Euclid Avenue (Cleveland)" per last 2 comments, too. doncram (talk) 05:38, 20 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
    All incoming mainspace links to Euclid Avenue have now been disambiguated. bd2412 T 07:22, 20 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Move discussion in progress

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Euclid Avenue (Cleveland, Ohio) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 22:30, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Reply