Talk:European Grand Prix
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Nurburgring
editI know the Nurburgring is historic, but how can you call it European when Germany gets it every year? They should send it all across Europe. 67.188.172.165 03:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Valencia
editThe "new" European GP will apparently be held on a street circuit in Valencia:
- Yeah, looks like this article is going to need a bit of work then. --roddie digital 00:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Improvement suggestions
editAdd some refs Guroadrunner 10:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Strange name
editIs it just me? It seems a very strange name for just one of many European grand prix. It seems as barmy as having a "Princess Royal". Does something special happen at the designated EGP? And yes, surely it should be rotated around Europe. Comments welcomed. Trafford09 (talk) 10:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- It's a talk page about the article rather then the subject, but it did used to be rotated around Europe but now it's just a title of convenience. So certaib countrries can have two races in the same year. --Falcadore (talk) 14:12, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
European Flag?
editShouldnt the flag for all the European Grand Prixs be the European one? Daniels Renault Sport (talk) 21:38, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
- No. Simply reason that one does not represent each other. The "European Flag" is the flag of the European Union, not Europe. The European Grand Prix has been held in Switzerland who is not a member of the European Union. So its not appropriate. For this and other reasons sub-national and supranational flags are not used. --Falcadore (talk) 21:49, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
- The Flag of Europe is not simply the flag of the European Union. It was created as a flag to represent the whole of Europe and the first organization to officially adopt this flag as their symbol was the Council of Europe of which Switzerland is a member too. The European Union adopted it as their symbol too nearly thirty years later. Its anyways more appropriate than the Spanish flag as many other countries have hosted this Grand Prix! Tvx1 (talk) 20:54, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- On the basis of your understanding of flags, yes. But as has been mentioned to you now multiple times, that is NOT how flags on Wikipedia work. They are not decorative associations of an events name. Neither the Council of Europe, nor the European Union have ANY association with this event. So just because you prefer a European flag does not mean it is correct.
- On a slightly related subject, have you noticed what is the name of the criteria in a races infobox that governs the flag? It's "nationality". Europe is not and never has been a nation. So there is a first step towards your understanding. --Falcadore (talk) 11:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Nor is it a Spanish Grand Prix, so displaying next European Grand Prix isn't right either. Unless there is a consensus to display the flag of the most recent host of this Grand Prix. in which the current situation would be correct. Tvx1 (talk) 17:15, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes there has been that consensus, for some years. --Falcadore (talk) 01:46, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Nor is it a Spanish Grand Prix, so displaying next European Grand Prix isn't right either. Unless there is a consensus to display the flag of the most recent host of this Grand Prix. in which the current situation would be correct. Tvx1 (talk) 17:15, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- The Flag of Europe is not simply the flag of the European Union. It was created as a flag to represent the whole of Europe and the first organization to officially adopt this flag as their symbol was the Council of Europe of which Switzerland is a member too. The European Union adopted it as their symbol too nearly thirty years later. Its anyways more appropriate than the Spanish flag as many other countries have hosted this Grand Prix! Tvx1 (talk) 20:54, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Baku
editWhy does Baku need to be called European Grand Prix? It should be called Azerbaijani Grand Prix. Plus from 2016 Germany needs to have 2 races once again for the first time in a decade. Since the Nurburgring will host the German GP annually from 2015, Hockenheim should host the European GP from 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harvey994 (talk • contribs) 09:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- The latest media reports, e.g. this one indicate that the race in Baku will be called the European Grand Prix (Grand Prix d'Europe). DH85868993 (talk) 10:00, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- The race has the name of whatever race organisers decide the name is. We certainly don't get a vote. I wonder though if Russia will invade because they don't want Europe that close to its borders. --Falcadore (talk) 13:02, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Where does the claim that Nürburgring will host the German Grand Prix annually from 2015 onwards come from?
- I saw that on PaddockTalk.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.100.93.62 (talk) 00:04, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- If this is what you are referring to, it makes clear that nürburgring is going to honor hockenheim's contract. So the rotating will be continuing for at least the next four years. Tvx1 (talk) 22:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- If they want to arrange two races in Germany, they can revive the Luxembourg Grand Prix. Outer Image (talk) 13:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- If this is what you are referring to, it makes clear that nürburgring is going to honor hockenheim's contract. So the rotating will be continuing for at least the next four years. Tvx1 (talk) 22:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- The race has the name of whatever race organisers decide the name is. We certainly don't get a vote. I wonder though if Russia will invade because they don't want Europe that close to its borders. --Falcadore (talk) 13:02, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Separate Articles
editI was wondering whether it would be appropriate to have the 'European GP' and the 'Baku European GP' as separate articles. The fact that the Baku race has been given a (slightly) different name would suggest that it is separate from the European GP, although whether that would warrant a separate article or not, I'm not sure. What are other editors' opinions on the matter? OakleighPark 10:47, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- It would be appropriate. Once the name is confirmed. --Falcadore (talk) 13:26, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- I would split them as well. However, since this is still well over a year away it's probably a bit early to do so now. Tvx1 (talk) 23:39, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
- It should be treated the same as "US GP & US GP West" they are separate Grand Prix titles so having them on separate articles would be appropriate. Speedy Question Mark (talk) 15:53, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- Are you sure it is not just the case that "Baku" (presumably the city government, or board of tourism) is the title sponsor for the "European Grand Prix"? 77.173.45.102 (talk) 11:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- In hindsight I'm glad we didn't spill this. Tvx1 18:53, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- Indeed. The Baku European GP name has apparently disappeared since then. Now we just have to live with a "European" race being east of Turkey... QueenCake (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- Baku lies in Europe nonetheless. And Azerbaijan is a full member of the Council of Europe. Tvx1 01:10, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
- Not at all. While a part of Azerbaijan is in Europe, Baku is clearly geographically located in Asia. Greater Caucasus is the border, and Baku is south of this mountain range. Outer Image (talk) 22:04, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
- Baku lies in Europe nonetheless. And Azerbaijan is a full member of the Council of Europe. Tvx1 01:10, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
- Indeed. The Baku European GP name has apparently disappeared since then. Now we just have to live with a "European" race being east of Turkey... QueenCake (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- In hindsight I'm glad we didn't spill this. Tvx1 18:53, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- Are you sure it is not just the case that "Baku" (presumably the city government, or board of tourism) is the title sponsor for the "European Grand Prix"? 77.173.45.102 (talk) 11:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- It should be treated the same as "US GP & US GP West" they are separate Grand Prix titles so having them on separate articles would be appropriate. Speedy Question Mark (talk) 15:53, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- I would split them as well. However, since this is still well over a year away it's probably a bit early to do so now. Tvx1 (talk) 23:39, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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