Talk:European Society for Engineering Education

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What do you mean by non Notable organisation? SEFI has 196 institutional members in 38 countries. It is the leading organisation for engineering education in Europe. The American sister organisation and the student organistation BEST have pages in WIKIPEDIA. I object strongly to the person(s) who are trying to delete this page. Please give me arguments in stead of deleting something that you know nothing about! Erik de Graaff

STOP DELETING

What can I do to prevent people from deleting this page? Please contact me and explain why this is happening. And please can someone tell me get the tag WP-ORG removed from the site? e.degraaff@tudelft.nl

Speedy tag and Hangon

Was the article deleted under a different title? I'm not seeing any previous deletion discussion. I'm not going to argue strongly about whether or not I think the article belongs here, but it does look like there might be some potential there with better sources and some cleanup. --Onorem♠Dil 15:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• Seconded. The article was deleted multiple times, but i think that, with some cleanup, this could be a quality wikipedia article. Par GraaffErik's comment i think this non profit organisation is notable enough to be on wikipedia, especially since there are articles about music bands out there that are allowed to exist, albeit a lot less notability.
  
  Apart from that, Erik, the people here DO gave you multiple reasons. This time it was a non notable warning, and subsequent deletions have been issued due to earlier deletions (Its not exactly allowed to re-create a page you created after its speedily deleted). --Excirial ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 15:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I removed the speedy tag; as Onorem hints it's not allowed to speedy something just because it was speedied before. You need to do two things to protect the article a little better against deletion: make a clear statement in the article about why this organization stands out (e.g. it's the leading organization in Europe for ...), and supply citations to third-party published information about the organization. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and the other thing you need to do to save it from deletion is to remove the prod tag. Anyone can do that, unlike speedy tags which must be removed by someone other than the author. But the likely effect of removing the prod is that, unless the person who left it is convinced that it shouldn't be deleted, it may be taken to a longer deletion discussion process. So: remove it before the prod expires (on or before the 25th) but not until you're ready. In the meantime, here is a Google scholar search that may be helpful in finding independent references on the organization; searching for that string seems to weed out many of the things published by SEFI so that you can see better what might have been published about them. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)